[Ads-l] QOTY, sports division?

Laurence Horn laurence.horn at YALE.EDU
Fri Nov 20 03:06:25 UTC 2015


Ah, thanks Garson.  I'd forgotten that thread.  But I take it Saban didn't forget his Patton.  The "(through our) ass" does seem like overkill, given the nature of the *substance* he describes as running through the tin horn.  Concretizing the metaphor indeed.  

LH

> On Nov 19, 2015, at 8:50 PM, ADSGarson O'Toole <adsgarsonotoole at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> 
> LH wrote:
>> Alabama coach Nick Saban at a presser, on how nobody should =
>> automatically assume his team will waltz over unheralded Charleston =
>> Southern this Saturday (Alabama is favored by 20 points):
>> 
>> =
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__sports.yahoo.com_blogs_ncaaf-2Ddr-2Dsaturday_nick-2Dsaban-2Dcompares-2D2011-2Dg-3D&d=AwIBaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=wFp3X4Mu39hB2bf13gtz0ZpW1TsSxPIWYiZRsMFFaLQ&m=8jRpofvKbYSOVIjtgusYYkEtZ2P0oP9iPshbTvdTaRQ&s=G1NGqlySEEV2oJL5wZrUn1oUX_RCZlmwluEVhIqX-rQ&e= 
>> ame-to-a-human-waste-function--video-143034968.html
>> 
>> The relevant passage, as it were, is around 1:10; Saban is describing =
>> how his dominant national championship team a few years ago had =
>> considerable trouble stopping the equally unheralded Georgia Southern =
>> team.  More precisely, he recalls, "They ran through our ass like shit =
>> through a tin horn".   A southernism, it appears. =20
> 
> Back in 2012 I initiated a discussion thread about that figure of
> speech. For example, below is a citation with a General Patton
> attribution.
> 
> The tin horn symbolically represented an alimentary canal, I would
> conjecture. Butter, water, and mud in the 1800s and early 1900s
> represented feces. Hence, when Saban mentions an ass together with
> shit he is re-concretizing the figurative language.
> 
> AFS Message Title: Simile: like *substance* through a tin horn
> Date: April 3, 2012
> Poster: Garson
> 
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__listserv.linguistlist.org_pipermail_ads-2Dl_2012-2DApril_118157.html&d=AwIBaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=wFp3X4Mu39hB2bf13gtz0ZpW1TsSxPIWYiZRsMFFaLQ&m=8jRpofvKbYSOVIjtgusYYkEtZ2P0oP9iPshbTvdTaRQ&s=PcRAkaoOZnm5HftgPfOHgpfqneQZizpHVGO58YrgZIg&e= 
> 
> Year: 1998 (Reprint)
> Title: The Patton papers 1940-1945
> Author: George S Patton; Martin Blumenson
> Publisher: New York : Da Capo Press
> 
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__books.google.com_books-3Fid-3DRRolDuahqPMC-26q-3D-2522tin-2Bhorn-2522-23v-3Dsnippet-26&d=AwIBaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=wFp3X4Mu39hB2bf13gtz0ZpW1TsSxPIWYiZRsMFFaLQ&m=8jRpofvKbYSOVIjtgusYYkEtZ2P0oP9iPshbTvdTaRQ&s=IUlsZziPT0ihSeaRcpNjz_Bu7zE7pD1z2FtdxnU1p88&e= 
> 
> [Begin excerpt]
> Question: Once through the Siegfried Line, will the advance be much
> like the last push?
> Patton: I think we will go like shit through a tin horn.
> [End excerpt]
> 
> Garson
> 
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