[Ads-l] slander

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Thu Nov 26 15:31:41 UTC 2015


Creationists have been using the "You don't know, you weren't there"
principle for years to blow Evolutionary Theory out of the water.

JL

On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 9:30 AM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>
wrote:

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> Poster:       Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at YALE.EDU>
> Subject:      Re: slander
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> > On Nov 26, 2015, at 8:23 AM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM> =
> wrote:
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> > 'To exploit cynically in words; insult through verbal cynicism.'
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> > Probably another ex. of the best word that would fit into a headline.
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> > Since the plaque claims to honor soldiers, it can't be "slanderous":
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> > Trump's Lies Slander Civil War Dead
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> > ...The New York Times reports that the outspoken Republican =
> candidate=E2=80=99s
> > golf course on Lowes Island, along the Potomac River in Virginia =
> includes a
> > historical marker that notes the following: =E2=80=9CMany great =
> American soldiers,
> > both of the North and South, died
> > at this spot ... The casualties were so great that the water turned =
> red and
> > thus became known as =E2=80=98The River of Blood.=E2=80=99=E2=80=9D No =
> date is given on the marker
> > as to when this engagement took place. No military units or commanding
> > officers are identified because, according to local historians, there =
> is no
> > evidence that anyone was killed in military combat at this spot during =
> the
> > Civil War.
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> The story I found online--at=20
> =
> http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/25/us/politics/in-renovation-of-golf-club-d=
> onald-trump-also-dressed-up-history.html,
> --does not contain a headline accusing Trump of slandering anyone, only =
> of "dressing up history", but it does suggest an interesting take on the =
> nature of historical research:
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> In a phone interview, Mr. Trump called himself a =E2=80=9Ca big history =
> fan=E2=80=9D but deflected, played down and then simply disputed the =
> local historians=E2=80=99 assertions of historical fact.
> =E2=80=9CThat was a prime site for river crossings,=E2=80=9D Mr. Trump =
> said. =E2=80=9CSo, if people are crossing the river, and you happen to =
> be in a civil war, I would say that people were shot =E2=80=94 a lot of =
> them.=E2=80=9D  The club does indeed lie a stone=E2=80=99s throw from =
> Rowser=E2=80=99s Ford, where, as an official historical marker notes, =
> Gen. J. E. B. Stuart led 5,000 Confederate troops including cavalry =
> across the Potomac en route to the Battle of Gettysburg.
> Between the 14th hole and the 15th tee of one of the club=E2=80=99s two =
> courses, Mr. Trump installed a flagpole on a stone pedestal overlooking =
> the Potomac, to which he affixed a plaque purportedly marking =E2=80=9CThe=
>  River of Blood."
> But no one died in that crossing, historians said, or in any other =
> notable Civil War engagement on the spot.
>
> =E2=80=9CHow would they know that?=E2=80=9D Mr. Trump asked when told =
> that local historians had called his plaque a fiction. =E2=80=9CWere =
> they there?=E2=80=9D
>
> Mr. Trump repeatedly said that =E2=80=9Cnumerous historians=E2=80=9D had =
> told him that the golf club site was known as the River of Blood. But he =
> said he did not remember their names.
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> Presumably those "numerous historians" *were* there during the deadly =
> crossing.  After all, Trump has assured us that thousands of =
> Arab-Americans were cheering in New Jersey as the towers came down, even =
> though there is no other testimony or photographic evidence to support =
> this claim.  But he was there. =20
>
> LH
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