[Ads-l] "We ARE x !"

Laurence Horn laurence.horn at YALE.EDU
Thu Oct 22 23:46:18 UTC 2015


> On Oct 22, 2015, at 4:37 PM, Dan Goncharoff <thegonch at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> 
> So that makes you a Ballantine man?

Sorry--like pinstripes, Ballantine is too closely linked to the Yankees for my taste.

LH
> 
> Hipster beer alert: Ballantine is coming back
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__money.cnn.com_2014_08_14_news_ballantine-2Dpabst_&d=AwIBaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=wFp3X4Mu39hB2bf13gtz0ZpW1TsSxPIWYiZRsMFFaLQ&m=xY8U-L_rZgyNtMLCq7mQX5UADHK251bfxfXw1TJWJpY&s=44ZSdA_NEqgzI3p7dFF-FK2f3Vs-vOJ64P5uFAoMIfg&e= 
> 
> BTW, Ballantine is now promoting a Burton Ale...
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.beeradvocate.com_community_threads_pabst-2Drevives-2Dlegendary-2Dchristmas-2Dbrew-2Dballantine-2Dburton-2Dale.326515_&d=AwIBaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=wFp3X4Mu39hB2bf13gtz0ZpW1TsSxPIWYiZRsMFFaLQ&m=xY8U-L_rZgyNtMLCq7mQX5UADHK251bfxfXw1TJWJpY&s=NDhseT_1BLtZzDyhGLx3YXx2EgMnaM3LbBvAmtaYtuI&e= 
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> 
> DanG
> 
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 4:25 PM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>
> wrote:
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>> Poster:       Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at YALE.EDU>
>> Subject:      Re: "We ARE x !"
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>> The hipsters I know (with zip codes in Williamsburg and the Mission) are =
>> into craft beer, predictable as that may be, and not at all into PBR.  =
>> But then so are their parents (at least this one); "flavorless", "tastes =
>> like ice cold water", and "provides zero enjoyment" sound about right.  =
>> Besides, if India Pale Ale weren't expressly designed for linguists it =
>> wouldn't be called IPA.
>> 
>> LH
>> 
>>> On Oct 22, 2015, at 4:01 PM, Dan Goncharoff <thegonch at GMAIL.COM> =
>> wrote:
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>>> Unless you're a hipster:
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>>> Opinion: How did Pabst Blue Ribbon become a hipster favorite?
>>> =
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttp-3A__www.marketwatch.com_=
>> story_whatll-2Dyou-2Dhave-2Dnot-2Da-2Dpabst-2Dblue-2Dribbon-2D2015-2D07-2D=
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>>> But then
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>>> Is PBR still cool? America's hipster beer is slowing down
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>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttp-3A__money.cnn.com_2015_0=
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>>> DanG
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>>> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Laurence Horn =
>> <laurence.horn at yale.edu>
>>> wrote:
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>>>> Poster:       Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at YALE.EDU>
>>>> Subject:      Re: "We ARE x !"
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>>>>> On Oct 22, 2015, at 3:39 PM, W Brewer <brewerwa at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>>>> =3D20
>>>>> Wir sind Pabst!
>>>>> When Joseph Aloisius Ratzinger became Pope Benedict XVI, colleague =3D=
>> 
>>>> Reinhard
>>>>> Duessel told me of that chant from the Heimat. Strikes me as =
>> stronger =3D
>>>> than
>>>>> <Habemus Papam> 'we have a pope': <Wir sind Pabst> lit. 'we are =
>> Pope', =3D
>>>> as
>>>>> if to say, 'we not only HAVE a pope, he's one of US!'  (Different =
>> from
>>>>> <*Popes R Us>, which might have been an old Italian slogan.)
>>>>>   I told Reinhard that <Wir sind Pabst> sounded more like a beer
>>>>> commercial. He didn't get it.
>>>>> =3D20
>>>> Or a cheer at Camp Randall, the rocking home field of Wisconsin =
>> Badgers =3D
>>>> football.  For some reason I couldn't fathom while I was living in =3D
>>>> Madison, PBR was the brew of choice there.  That was over 30 years =
>> ago, =3D
>>>> though--maybe the chant now is "Wir sind nicht mehr Pabst": =3D20
>>>> cf. =3D
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