[Ads-l] X snob shift

Benjamin Barrett gogaku at IX.NETCOM.COM
Mon Oct 26 14:42:21 UTC 2015


Good point with “wine snob.” And a friend has called me a “sushi snob” in the past year or so even though I’m not really into it, and I do think he meant it in the elitist sense.

But here’s an article with the term “salt snob” (http://dailym.ai/1NtSwyr) that doesn’t seem to have that connotation. BB

> Il giorno 26 ott 2015, alle ore 07:33, Joel Berson <berson at ATT.NET> ha scritto:
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> I agree with Jon -- an X snob looks down on people who know less about X th=
> an he/she does.
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> I think I've heard "wine snob", which surely makes this phrase more elitist=
> than "beer snob".=C2=A0 Now "scahns" (as I swear I heard it pronounced in =
> Scotland, rather than "scohnes"), on the other hand ...
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> Joel
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>> In this usage, I don=3DE2=3D80=3D99t think there is a pejorative sense.
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> Yes and no.=C2=A0 By adopting the well-understood pejorative term, the disd=
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> group asserts its power.
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> JL
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> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 2:52 AM, Benjamin Barrett <gogaku at ix.netcom.com>
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>> Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snob =3D
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snob>) has a rundown on the word snob, =3D
>> and it says that both definitions are pejorative.=3D20
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>> The Oxford Dictionary site =3D
>> (http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/snob =
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>> <http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/snob>) =
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>> and Wiktionary (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/snob =3D
>> <https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/snob>) do not go into such detail but =3D
>> pretty much agree with each other in that they say that a snob considers =
> =3D
>> themself superior to others, either in taste or status.
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>> The use of =3DE2=3D80=3D9CX snob,=3DE2=3D80=3D9D however, seems to be dif=
> ferent in =3D
>> connotation.
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>> Earlier this year, I heard a customer at a coffee shop declare herself =
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>> to be a =3DE2=3D80=3D9Cscone snob=3DE2=3D80=3D9D and today, I saw an anno=
> uncement =3D
>> for a professional get-together that included the words =3DE2=3D80=3D9Cbe=
> er =3D
>> snobs.=3DE2=3D80=3D9D
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>> In this usage, I don=3DE2=3D80=3D99t think there is a pejorative sense.
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>> Because of this loss of negative connotation, I think the word can =3D
>> simply mean having discerning taste or being really, really into =3D
>> something, and not necessarily superior.
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>> Benjamin Barrett
>> Formerly of Seattle, WA
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