[Ads-l] body = 'human being as a complete person'

Laurence Horn laurence.horn at YALE.EDU
Tue Sep 1 20:55:34 UTC 2015


> On Sep 1, 2015, at 3:35 PM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> 
> Not quite the same - because for Burns (I assume) it was a familiar idiom.
> It just meant "person," without implying that some special aspect of
> personhood was being emphasized.

Point taken. But it could be argued that there *is* a special aspect of personhood emphasized in the following couplet. From the version in _Merry Muses of Caledonia_:

O gin a body meet a body,
   Comin' thro' the rye;
Gin a body f___k a body,
   Need a body cry.

Gin a body meet a body,
   Comin' thro' the glen;
Gin a body f___k a body,
   Need the world ken.

Rhetorical questions, to be sure.

LH


> 
> For the opposite, cf. 20th C. " warm body" = 'person as interchangeable and
> nondescript.'
> 
> JL
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> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 3:15 PM, Robin Hamilton <
> robin.hamilton3 at virginmedia.com> wrote:
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>> "Gin a body meet a body / Coming through the rye ..." -- R. Burns.
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>> Dec. 24, 2014:
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>> "Every 28 hours a Black body is slain by a cop, security or vigilante.
>> EVERY 28 FUCKING HOURS. This is what genocide looks like."
>> 
>> A Minnesota spokesman for #Blacklivesmatter has repeated this phrase
>> several times on CNN, though leaving out "security or vigilante."
>> 
>> Traditionally a person has been considered as more than a mere body, but
>> maybe that's changing.
>> 
>> JL
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