[Ads-l] "The root of all languages"
Joel Berson
berson at ATT.NET
Wed Feb 24 15:43:55 UTC 2016
My apologies for the previous blank message.
Knowing nothing about the various linguistic arguments, I doubted the San/Bushmen assertion merely because the Kalahari is far from the Olduvai Gorge.
Joel
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There's no evidence of bandanas or jai alai cestas in Cro Magnon excavations. So there's that...
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> On Feb 24, 2016, at 9:29 AM, Herb Stahlke <hfwstahlke at GMAIL.COM> =
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> A few years ago, I reviewed and introductory phonetics text for speech
> students that claimed that Basque was spoken by Cro-Magnon 45,000 =
years
> ago.
Hard claim to disprove. =20
> Thankfully I have forgotten the author's name.
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> Herb
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> On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 6:17 AM, Salikoko S. Mufwene =
<s-mufwene at uchicago.edu
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>> Here we go again... back to primitive people, primitive cultures... =
and
>> of course they must speak the primordial, primitive languages! The
>> clicks, so complex as sounds, must have been the primordial =
consonants,
>> right? Damn! I once wrote an essay in which I argue that Africa is =
not
>> more likely to tell us what the primordial language was like, if =
there
>> was just one, than any other part of the world. Here's the link to =
it,
>> for those more interested in the complexity of the phylogenetic =
scenario:
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https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttp-3A__mufwene.uchicago.edu=
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>> Sali.
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>> On 2/24/2016 7:42 AM, Amy West wrote:
>>> On 2/24/16 12:00 AM, ADS-L automatic digest system wrote:
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>>> From: Laurence Horn<laurence.horn at YALE.EDU>
>>> To:ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 4:37 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [ADS-L] "The root of all languages"
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>>>> On Feb 23, 2016, at 3:42 PM, Joel Berson<berson at att.net> wrote:
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>>>> Today's puzzling Boston Globe again --
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>>>> "Long ago, I spent some years in what now is Namibia, mostly in the
>>>> Kalahari Desert. At the time, the Kalahari was virtually unexplored
>>>> except by the people known as San, Bushmen, or Ju/wa hunter
>>>> gatherers, now believed to have been the people from whom all of us
>>>> descend. Their language is thought to be the root of all languages
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>>> Ah, it all clicks for me now.
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>>> LH
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>>>> Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 00:49:51 +0000
>>>> From: Joel Berson<berson at ATT.NET>
>>>> Subject: Re: "The root of all languages"
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>>>> Groan.
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>>>> Joel
>>> The worst thing, Joel, is that he does this live and in person as
>>> well. I think the ADS annual meeting should carry a warning label
>>> because of this. ;-)
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