[Ads-l] Maybe it's a Saint Louis thing

Herb Stahlke hfwstahlke at GMAIL.COM
Tue Jan 12 04:13:20 UTC 2016


There's a lot of /l/ vocalization in western Pennsylvania, not to mention
Cockney, Estuary, New York, Australia and New Zealand.



On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 11:37 AM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:

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> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:57 AM, Herb Stahlke <hfwstahlke at gmail.com>
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> > Not just a St. Louis thing.  I remember hearing it as "Mo[l]trin" too,
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> > that would have been in Central Indiana.
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> Language is bizarre. Some native-speakers of English hear a W as a "hard" L
> in some environments, others hear a "hard" L as a W in other environments.
> Among the Slavic languages, the historical "hard" L preserved in e.g.
> Russian and Czech, has become W in, e.g. Ukrainian and Polish.
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