[Ads-l] Trivago or Chivago?

Neal Whitman nwhitman at AMERITECH.NET
Thu Jan 14 14:28:19 UTC 2016


My latest blog post on just this subject has crosslinguistic hilarity: 
https://literalminded.wordpress.com/2015/11/28/trucha-affrication/

Neal

> On Jan 14, 2016, at 7:21 AM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
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> You guys are weird.
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> JL
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>> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 10:30 PM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 9:46 AM, Geoffrey Steven Nathan <
>> geoffnathan at wayne.edu> wrote:
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>>> I say /chruck/ for 'truck'.  Also happens with /d/, gi=
>>> ving, for me /jrive/  for 'drive'.
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>> So do I. Impressionistically speaking, I think that these are slightly
>> retroflex, compared to my regular versions of these sounds. My further
>> impression is that my version is common to BE, and even to most speakers,
>> because I really do hear "chivago"and not "chrivago." Usually, I don't be
>> noticing anything odd about other people's pronunciation of /dr tr/,
>> presumably because theirs distributively be the same as mine.
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