[Ads-l] _beyond_

[Tom Zurinskas]

Comparing y-glide and w-glides, where both appear as spoken between two consecutive vowels, there are over twice as many y-glides.  See http://justpaste..it/w-glides .  The data are from the top 5k words of English as per Collins-Cobuild.
Tom Zurinskas,  Originally SWConn 20 yrs,  college Tenn 3,  work NJ  33,  now FL 12.The need for truespel phonetics - http://justpaste.it/truespelnow 



> Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 03:09:09 +0000
> From: truespel at HOTMAIL.COM
> Subject: Re: _beyond_
> To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
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> To be consistent, the truespel converter has y-glides between consecutive vowels in words.  These can also be pronounced with glottal stops or even non-stops.  I think the majority form is y-glides, even if ever so slightly.See the word popularity list at  https://justpaste.it/y-glides   ( a double y starts a stressed syllable)
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> For "uh-oh" I always say it as "ut-oh", where the "t" is really a glottal stop. so it's  u'-oh  or in truespel ~u'oe
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> Tom Zurinskas,  Originally SWConn 20 yrs,  college Tenn 3,  work NJ  33,  now FL 12.The need for truespel phonetics - http://justpaste.it/truespelnow 
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> > Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 21:29:32 -0400
> > From: laurence.horn at YALE.EDU
> > Subject: Re: _beyond_
> > To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
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> > > On May 29, 2016, at 6:29 PM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> > > 
> > > On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 7:50 AM, Tom Zurinskas <truespel at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > >> For "beyond" thefreedicitonary.com a golttal stop in place of the "y" as
> > >> first pronunciation, but I hear all the speakers say the "y" in their
> > >> pronunciation.
> > >> 
> > > 
> > > That's surprising! Since I use the version with -y-, IMO, *that* should be
> > > the primary pronunciation, needless to say. And I myself hardly ever hear
> > > the pronunciation with glottal stop. I notice it primarily because I feel
> > > the same way about the glottal stop in *American* English that other people
> > > feel about _moist_.
> > 
> > Mebbe so, but do you pronounce "uh-oh" or "unh-unh" (the negative one, not to be confused with the glottal-stopless "uh-huh") without one?  Or do you just avoid both?  (I don't have one in "beyond" and don't recall hearing it from others, but I might have missed it.)  
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> > LH
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