[Ads-l] improprietyship: "sometimes you talk yourself into a corner"

Ben Zimmer bgzimmer at GMAIL.COM
Sun Jun 5 18:58:21 UTC 2016


In that case we could call it a Fay-Cutler malapropism, in which the word
replacing the original need not be contextually appropriate.


On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 8:31 AM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> If he did say "improprietorship," I have to assume it was a slip of
> the tongue for the contextually appropriate "improprietyship."
>
> "Proprietorship" had nothing to do with the discourse.
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 9:52 PM, David Barnhart <dbarnhart at highlands.com>
> wrote:
> > That's what one expert in the science of linguistics who was teaching me
> the
> > finer points of pronunciations in dictionaries said.  Usually, he
> concluded
> > that your first interpretation is closer to the "truth".
> >
> > Good night, all.
> > Regards,
> > David
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: American Dialect Society [mailto:ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of
> > Jonathan Lighter
> > Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2016 8:34 PM
> > To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: improprietyship
> >
> > I listened several times: at first I heard the "-or," but I eventually
> > decided it was an illusion.
> >
> > On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 7:20 PM, Ben Zimmer <bgzimmer at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 9:01 AM, Jonathan Lighter
> >> <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> > On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 7:11 AM, Jonathan Lighter
> >>> > <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com
> >>> >
> >>> > wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > > "no appearance of improprietyship."
> >>> >
> >>> The speaker, David Chavez, is a former member of the New Mexico House
> >>> of Representatives
> >>>
> >>> BTW, the transcript reads "impropriety." Cf. the parallel case of
> > "bi-ism."
> >>>
> >>> http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1606/03/nday.03.html
> >>>
> >>
> >>  The transcript currently reads "improprietorship [SIC]." That sounds
> >> about
> >> right:
> >>
> >> https://archive.org/details/CNNW_20160603_100000_New_Day#start/3960/en
> d/4020
> >>
> >>
>

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