[Ads-l] Pronunciation of "faith" and "also" in parts of Alabama

Charlie Law chaslaw at GMAIL.COM
Wed Mar 2 19:19:52 UTC 2016


[Ugh. Still got these pesky character-encoding probs. Here's another try.]

Thanks, Walter! That's an explanation that makes sense to me.

It shows how hypercorrection doesn't follow the derivational pattern that
it's evidently motivated by: "width" < "wide", "breadth" < "broad",
="fai[t]th" < ???.

Now, can you tell me what's going on with "al[t]so"?

Similar case: in Florence, Alabama, and in Shelby, NC, I heard this
pronunciation of the 28th president's surname: "Wil[t]son". This must be
the same inland Southern (piedmont, not mountain) dialect that I hear in
upstate S.C.

(Yes, the bowtie is nice, except that it gets Alpo stains when I eat my
breakfast.)



On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 7:07 PM, Charles Law <chaslaw at gmail.com> wrote:

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> Thanks, Walter! That=E2=80=99s an explanation that makes sense to me.=20
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> It shows how hypercorrection doesn=E2=80=99t follow derivational pattern
> that it=E2=
> =80=99s evidently motivated by: =E2=80=9Cwidth=E2=80=9D <
> =E2=80=9Cwide=E2=80=9D, =E2=80=9Cbreadth=E2=80=9D < =E2=80=9Cbro=
> ad=E2=80=9D, =E2=80=9Cfai[t]th=E2=80=9D < ???.=20
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> Now, can you tell me what=E2=80=99s going on with
> =E2=80=9Cal[t]so=E2=80=9D?=20
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> Similar case: in Florence, Alabama, and in Shelby, NC, I heard this
> pronunc=
> iation of the 28th president=E2=80=99s surname:
> =E2=80=9CWil[t]son=E2=80=9D.
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> (Yes, the bowtie is nice, except that it gets Alpo stains when I eat my
> bre=
> akfast.)
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> On 3/2/16, 4:48 PM, "American Dialect Society on behalf of W Brewer"
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> @LISTSERV.UGA.EDU on behalf of brewerwa at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
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> >  Well, looks like the dialectologists are hibernating, so this is my
> >opportunity to consult my trusty old Arthur Bonstein handbook.
> >  RE: <faith> ~ <fai[t]th>:
> >(1) Probably not an "excrescent [t]", that just grew in there as a
> >homorganic interdental t, for some unknown reason.
> >(2) Possibly, hypercorrection. Bronstein notes that "In careless or
> >indistinct speech, the /t/ or /d/ may be lost, especially when final or in
> >certain clusters, as in ... <eighth, width, breadth> ..." Note how
> ><eight+th> is even written <eighth>, but some people may feel it sounds
> >better to stick the plosive <t> back in; and, not only that, add one into
> ><faith> for good measure. Can't think of any better parallels offhand.
> >  Cute bow tie, Charlie.
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