[Ads-l] On National Grammar Day . . .

Laurence Horn laurence.horn at YALE.EDU
Sun Mar 6 21:07:44 UTC 2016


Thanks, Stephen.  Should have realized it was in the not uncorrected edition...

LH


> On Mar 6, 2016, at 7:43 AM, Stephen Goranson <goranson at DUKE.EDU> wrote:
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> It's in the "Second Edition, Corrected" of 1763, p. 139:
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> Stephen Goranson
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>> On Mar 5, 2016, at 4:57 PM, Baron, Dennis E <d... wrote:
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>> Replying to Larry Horn’s comment,
>> 
>> I agree, Larry, that Lowth was prescriptivist incarnate, and I do mention that he opposed double negatives in GGT—though I don’t quote him--but curiously, my pdf copy of the 1762 Lowth has nothing on double negatives, not on p. 126, not anywhere. And though, in 1982, there were no pdfs, when I thumbed through the pages back then I didn’t see that either. He must have added that in later editions — he did that with other proscriptions (passive voice, maybe? don’t remember offhand). I have, though, sharpened the post to take your comment into consideration! Thx.
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> Hmmm.  Interesting.  I've found a number of other places on the web where the quote is attributed to Robert Lowth, with the same date (1762) and I assume the same publication (his _Short Introduction to English Grammar, with Critical Notes_).  Here's one that's more scholarly than some, based on the research of a distinguished historian of the English language, the delightfully yclept Ingrid Tieken Boon von Ostade:
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> but on the other hand I agree with Dennis that the passage in question does not appear in the work cited, at least in the copy I found online.
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> I'll try to sort out this contretemps, if only to satisfy myself (and maybe Dennis), since in my message I was citing an old paper of mine ("Duplex negatio affirmat...: The economy of double negation", 1991) and I shudder to think I got the reference wrong.  On the bright side, the bishop's estate hasn't sued yet.
> 
> LH
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>> On Mar 4, 2016, at 11:00 PM, ADS-L automatic digest system <...>> wrote:
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>> Two negative in English destroy one another, or are equivalent to an affirmative
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