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Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Sun Mar 13 20:29:45 UTC 2016


One (of many) databases not available to the editor during the years
1968-2005 was Readex's "African-American Newspapers, 1827-1998, which has
scanned back issues of some 200 American newspapers published by and for
African-Americans over nearly 175 years.

Searches for "hep," "hepped," and "hept" elicited too many early false
positives of "her," "help," "hope," "hop," "kept" and the like.

When similar false positives were eliminated for "hep to," the earliest
example found was from 1915.

"Hepped on" did not appear. Nor did "hipped on."

"Hep cat/ hepcat" did not appear till 1938-39,  and the rare "hip cat" not
till 1949. I found no exx. of "hipcat."

JL


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> Subject: Re: Hip/Hep and "Crying Wolof" (for Horn & Sheidlower)
> From: Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
> To: ads-l at istserv.uga.edu
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> One (of many) databases not available to the editor during the years
> 1968-2005 was Readex's "African-American Newspapers, 1827-1998, which has
> scanned back issues of some 200 American newspapers published by and for
> African-Americans over nearly 175 years.
>
> Searches for "hep," "hepped," and "hept" elicited too many early false
> positives of "her," "help," "hope," "hop," "kept" and the like.
>
> When similar false positives were eliminated for "hep to," the earliest
> example found was from 1915.
>
> "Hepped on" did not appear. Nor did "hipped on."
>
> "Hep cat/ hepcat" did not appear till 1938-39,  and the rare "hip cat" not
> till 1949. I found no exx. of "hipcat."
>
> JL
>
> On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 2:54 PM, Michael Quinion <
> michael.quinion at worldwidewords.org> wrote:
>
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> > Sender:       American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
> > Poster:       Michael Quinion <michael.quinion at WORLDWIDEWORDS.ORG>
> > Organization: World Wide Words
> > Subject:      Re: Hip/Hep and "Crying Wolof" (for Horn & Sheidlower)
> >
> >
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > On 13/03/2016 14:30, Z Rice wrote:
> > > All of this is disingenuous and diversionary.  NONE of of this
> addresses
> > > the original post and the Wolof evidence.
> > >
> > > Focusing on when and where a term was first published is rendering
> > yourself
> > > a glorified data-entry clerk.
> > >
> > > I can hire a temp to perform the exact same services.
> >
> > Well now, this is hardly a kindly way to refer to the work of a goodly
> > proportion of the subscribers to this list. I'm a minor researcher into
> > etymology compared with others here, but I know that seeking the first
> > known publication of a term is an invaluable and essential first step in
> > exploring its history. Finding that information requires patience,
> > knowledge of language usage and change, a substantial dose of common
> > sense, and an open mind.
>
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