[Ads-l] sexist "crazy"

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Mon Mar 21 11:55:38 UTC 2016


Not to overlook the fact that  millennials often apply "bitch" to men.
(There are even pre-millennial cites in HDAS 1.)

Sexist? Anti-sexist? Post-sexist? Sez who?

JL

On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 6:44 AM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
wrote:

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> Cf. the familiarity of the corresponding phrases "crazy bastard" and "crazy
> motherfucker."
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> JL
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> On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 6:03 PM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
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> > Even in "crazy bitch," "crazy" means "crazy."
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> > It doesn't mean "bitch."
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> > JL
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> > On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 4:13 PM, Benjamin Barrett <
> mail.barretts at gmail.com
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> > > Subject:      Re: sexist "crazy"
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> > > Good find. Perhaps =E2=80=9Ccrazy bitch=E2=80=9D comes from this, not =
> > > the other way around.
> > >
> > > FWIW, the link says it=E2=80=99s from "When Will Jesus Bring The Pork =
> > > Chops?=E2=80=9D Based on Wikipedia =
> > > (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_Will_Jesus_Bring_the_Pork_Chops%3F
> =
> > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_Will_Jesus_Bring_the_Pork_Chops
> ?>),
> > =
> > > it=E2=80=99s probably the audiobook version.
> > >
> > > Benjamin Barrett
> > > Formerly of Seattle, WA
> > >
> > > > On 20 Mar 2016, at 11:58, Dan Goncharoff <thegonch at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> > > >=20
> > > > https://youtu.be/VCGMInJ7jYE
> > > >=20
> > > > Don't know where it's from
> > > > On Mar 20, 2016 2:43 PM, "Benjamin Barrett" <mail.barretts at gmail.com
> >
> > =
> > > wrote:
> > > >=20
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> > > >> Poster:       Benjamin Barrett <mail.barretts at GMAIL.COM>
> > > >> Subject:      Re: sexist "crazy"
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> > > >> I didn=3DE2=3D80=3D99t see that prevalent in a few Google searches
> I =
> > > tried. =3D
> > > >> Perhaps =3DE2=3D80=3D9Casshole=3DE2=3D80=3D9D. BB
> > > >>=20
> > > >>> On 20 Mar 2016, at 11:34, Dan Goncharoff <thegonch at GMAIL.COM>
> wrote:
> > > >>> =3D20
> > > >>> =3D20
> > > >>> Didn't George Carlin say that women are crazy but men are stupid?
> > > >>> On Mar 20, 2016 2:17 PM, "Benjamin Barrett" =
> > > <mail.barretts at gmail.com> =3D
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>> =3D20
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> > > >>>> Poster:       Benjamin Barrett <mail.barretts at GMAIL.COM>
> > > >>>> Subject:      Re: sexist "crazy"
> > > >>>> =3D20
> > > >>>> =3D
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> > > >>>> =3D20
> > > >>>> This was news to me. Could it be a clipping from =
> > > =3D3DE2=3D3D80=3D3D9Ccrazy =3D
> > > >> =3D3D
> > > >>>> bitch=3D3DE2=3D3D80=3D3D9D?=3D3D20
> > > >>>> =3D20
> > > >>>> Surely there must be a similar sort of word used to describe how =
> > > men =3D
> > > >> act =3D3D
> > > >>>> as a way to blame them for the breakup.
> > > >>>> =3D20
> > > >>>> Benjamin Barrett
> > > >>>> Formerly of Seattle, WA
> > > >>>> =3D20
> > > >>>>> On 20 Mar 2016, at 05:54, Dan Goncharoff <thegonch at GMAIL.COM> =
> > > wrote:
> > > >>>>> =3D3D20
> > > >>>>> I think of two things. First, there is the meaning of =
> > > "hysterical", =3D
> > > >> a =3D3D
> > > >>>> word
> > > >>>>> with a firm gender bias.
> > > >>>>> =3D3D20
> > > >>>>> Second, there is this:
> > > >>>>> =3D3D20
> > > >>>>> =3D3D
> > > >>>> =3D
> > > >> =
> > >
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> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/01/dont-call-women-crazy_n_6201580.h=
> > > =3D
> > > >> =3D3D
> > > >>>> tml
> > > >>>>> =3D3D20
> > > >>>>> DanG
> > > >>>>> =3D3D20
> > > >>>>> On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 8:05 AM, Jonathan Lighter =3D3D
> > > >>>> <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
> > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>> =3D3D20
> > > >>>>>> =3D3D20
> > > >>>>>> Donald Trump has called Megyn Kelly "crazy."
> > > >>>>>> =3D3D20
> > > >>>>>> Donald Trump has resumed his gratuitous obsessive-compulsive =3D
> > > >> blasting =3D3D
> > > >>>> of
> > > >>>>>> Megyn Kelly. And according to CNN media correspondent Brian =3D
> > > >> Stelter:
> > > >>>>>> =3D3D20
> > > >>>>>> "Lately he's been calling her 'crazy,' which some people would
> =3D
> > > >> think =3D3D
> > > >>>> is a
> > > >>>>>> sexist reference. There is a meaning of 'crazy' when applied to
> > =3D=
> > >
> > > >> women =3D3D
> > > >>>> that
> > > >>>>>> is different than when applied to men. We all kind of know that
> =
> > > in =3D
> > > >> =3D3D
> > > >>>> society.
> > > >>>>>> When he says 'crazy Megyn Kelly,' it certainly has a specific
> > =3D3D=
> > >
> > > >>>> connotation."
> > > >>>>>> =3D3D20
> > > >>>>>> Q.: Huh? *I* don't know it, "kind of" or otherwise. Crazy means
> =
> > > =3D3D
> > > >>>> crazy.
> > > >>>>>> First we were assured that "moist" is one of the most offensive
> > =3D=
> > >
> > > >> words =3D3D
> > > >>>> in
> > > >>>>>> English.  Now this.
> > > >>>>>> =3D3D20
> > > >>>>>> Elucidation, please.
> > > >>>>>> =3D3D20
> > > >>>>>> JL
> > > >>>> =3D20
> > >
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