[Ads-l] _beyond_

Herb Stahlke hfwstahlke at GMAIL.COM
Mon May 30 21:23:41 EDT 2016


And there's the Sanders staffer on MSNBC who regularly says "clin?in, where
the vowels are lax, as expected, and nasalized, as expected, but I don't
hear an /n/ in either syllable.

On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 2:02 PM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 9:29 PM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>
> wrote:
>
> > Mebbe so, but do you pronounce "uh-oh" or "unh-unh" (the negative one,
> not
> > to be confused with the glottal-stopless "uh-huh") without one?  Or do
> you
> > just avoid both?  (I don't have one in "beyond" and don't recall hearing
> it
> > from others, but I might have missed it.)
>
>
> I had real words in mind, like bo?le, bu?on, no?in', etc. used by
> hip-hoppers, rappers, and random people on reality shows. However, it seems
> to be falling out of fashion. A friend, he of "up the skreek" fame has
> glo?al stops as a native feature of his speech, though he claims that he
> "don't use no glo?al stop!" In his case, I find it interesting.
>
> IME, very few people use "be?ond. I first heard it used by a single girl
> down home in Texas, ca. 1947. So, I figured it for a local thing. but over
> the dekkids, I've heard it random instances of it in the wild from everyone
> everywhere. A couple of sites transcribe the word as approx. "be-ond"
> preceding "be-yond." But every site that has audio gives "be-yond."
>
> Have you ever heard BE [CjV-] > [CrV-]: beautiful, Buick > b[ru]tiful,
> B[r]uick? It's *far* more common than be?ond. How about BE intrusive r in I
> am, Buick > I ram, Burick? Also more common than be?ond, even though, IME,
> there is no restriction of be?ond to any particular subset of speakers that
> I have noticed.
>
> I've heard be?ond once, so far, this year, promptingmotivating me to wonder
> what other people's experience might be. I can't recall when the last time
> was that I heard it before this year.
> --
> -Wilson
> -----
> All say, "How hard it is that we have to die!"---a strange complaint to
> come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
> -Mark Twain
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