[Ads-l] Facebookery: "Stay _y'all ass_ on your back!!!"

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Sun Nov 27 07:41:17 EST 2016


[Let's say it was an adaptable comic idiom: "I shoulda stood at home!" was
also possible, but I suppose there were few others

I associate "stood" with Chester Riley-type characters.

But the non-comic past tense of "stay" was indeed "stayed."

Dig:

1968 Red Barber & Bob Creamer _Rhubarb in the Catbird Seat_ (Doubleday) 43
: There was a famous expression that Joe Jacobs, the fight manager, came up
with one time when he went to a football game. Everything had gone wrong
that day, and it wasn't much of a game, and, to top it off, it was bitter
cold. Jacobs, shivering, said to a sportswriter, " I shoulda stood in
bed.'' What does the poet say? "Lives there a man with soul so dead, who
never to himself has said, 'I shoulda stood in bed.'"

Also:

1942 Leonard Lyons, in _Dallas Morning News_ (July 27) 8: Bob Low... - who
was Liberty's correspondent [in Cairo] - had lost heavily [at poker] and
got up and groaned, "I shoulda stood in bed!"  Capt. [Randolph] Churchill
was puzzled by this expression until [Quentin] Reynolds explained that it
is an American colloquialism, originated by the late fight manager, Joe
Jacobs, who first used it to express regret that he ever left his house.

1940 _Dallas Morning News_ (Jan.28) 2: I Shoulda Stood in Bed...A show tune.

JL


On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 10:50 PM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>
wrote:

> > On Nov 26, 2016, at 8:38 PM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM>
> wrote:
> >
> > "I shoulda stood in bed!"
> >
> > Catch-phrase of my youth (1950s).
>
> Here's Bugs:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdcQ-VC1uvc
>
> LH
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 4:07 PM, Clai Rice <cxr1086 at louisiana.edu>
> wrote:
> >
> >> I've never heard "stood" for *stayed* that I know of. Its something to
> >> listen for, though.
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Wilson Gray" <hwgray at gmail.com>
> >>> To: "Clai Rice" <cxr1086 at louisiana.edu>
> >>> Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 11:18:34 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: Facebookery: "Stay _y'all ass_ on your back!!!"
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 8:20 PM, Clai Rice <cxr1086 at louisiana.edu>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> so far this will be the first with the mixed forms.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> That caught my attention, too. I had to struggle with myself not to
> >>> "correct" it. The guy who wrote this is a high-school teacher in his
> day
> >>> job. Maybe "knowing better" caused him to "stutter," so to speak.
> >>>
> >>> BTW, ever come across _stood_ in place of _stayed_? I had an Army buddy
> >>> named Roussell - I thought he was white, until he started to talk to
> me -
> >>> who once said to me,
> >>>
> >>> "Man, when I was stationed at Fort Polk, I *stood* in New Orleans!"
> >>>
> >>> As someone on the Web avers, WRT "I shoulda stood in bed,"
> >>>
> >>> Various commentators have said that "stood" for "stayed" is
> Brooklynese,
> >>> and Leo Rosten used it as an example of Yiddish, either one applicable
> to
> >>> Jacobs.
> >>>
> >>> So, I was quite surprised to hear a black dude from Louisiana use it.
> >>>
> >>> "I shoulda stood in bed" was a very popular catch-phrase on the radio,
> >> when
> >>> I was a kid in the '40's. It made absolutely no sense to me till
> Roussell
> >>> said what he said, which still stands as the only time that I've heard
> >>> "stood" used for "stayed" in the wild.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> -Wilson
> >>> -----
> >>> All say, "How hard it is that we have to die!"---a strange complaint to
> >>> come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
> >>> -Mark Twain
> >>>
> >>
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