[Ads-l] Between you and I, I'm surprised!

Robin Hamilton robin.hamilton3 at VIRGINMEDIA.COM
Sun Nov 27 12:18:51 EST 2016


Well, if it's good enough for Shakespeare ...

Running this through inside my head, I realise that I tend to be comfortable
with (and say), "Between you and I" when the phrase is in a nominal position,
possibly analysing, if I ever did such a thing, (Between you and) as qualifying
"I".

In contrast, if it follows the verb, I go for "me" -- "This is just between you
and me".

Just my idiolect, but.

Has there been any work done on whether the varieties of acceptability vary with
different geographical and social registers?  I'm tempted to say the "sometimes
I, sometimes me" version might reflect my Glasgow background, but I suspect that
would be rubbish.

 Robin

> 
>     On 27 November 2016 at 12:19 Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM>
> wrote:
> 
> 
>     It's even in Shakespeare, a century earlier.
> 
>     _The Merchant of Venice_ III, ii, 320.
> 
>     JL
> 
>     On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 8:48 PM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>     > Love[']s a Jest. A Comedy. (1. Ed.) - Page 67
>     > https://books.google.com/books?id=ZRNSAAAAcAAJ
>     > Peter Anthony Motteux - _1696_ - ‚ÄéRead
>     > Ilb[red]. Well, Sam, wil't speak a good word to thy Neice [sic] for
>     > honest
>     > Bob[?]
>     > Ga[ymood]. _Between you and I_, honest Bob, 'twill be needless; I fancy
>     > my
>     > Lord Lovewel will have her before to Morrow Noon, if he has not by this
>     > time, and so I leave you.
>     >
>     >
>     > Somehow, till today, I've labored under the mispreapprehension that
>     > _between you and I_ et sim. is something that became hip only recently,
>     > like, since WWII. That it's, in fact, hundreds of years old is, well...
>     >
>     > Youneverknow.
>     > --
>     > -Wilson
>     > -----
>     > All say, "How hard it is that we have to die!"---a strange complaint to
>     > come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
>     > -Mark Twain
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