[Ads-l] The Nigerian Scam revisited

Robin Hamilton robin.hamilton3 at VIRGINMEDIA.COM
Sun Oct 2 21:35:24 UTC 2016


Not quite, though they do use the exchange of sexual favours as one of several
methods of social binding.

Also not quite a matriarchy, but compared with the Utterly Male Silvers, close
to it.

Me, I admire the bonobo, and I like to think that I'm more enlightened than a
silver-backed gorilla, but I suspect that I'm finally on the level with the
chimpanzees.

Way it goes.

At least be grateful that this in a non-Noyau list.

Robin

> On 02 October 2016 at 22:23 Flourish Klink <flourish.klink at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>     Don't bonobo monkeys also constantly copulate?
> 
> 
>     On Sun, Oct 2, 2016, 5:02 PM Robin Hamilton
> <robin.hamilton3 at virginmedia.com mailto:robin.hamilton3 at virginmedia.com >
> wrote:
> 
>         > > Well, to be picky, the Nigerian 419 scam, specifically a web-based
>         > > phenomenon,
> >         is a variant on the Spanish Prisoner Con.  Pushing it back to
> > England in the
> >         1600s, I suppose guinea dropping could be considered a slighter
> > variant of the
> >         same business, as Guinea Droppers, Spanish Prisoner Conmen, and
> > Nigerian [not
> >         necessarily from that physical area, but so-called from the first
> > identified ISP
> >         address associated with the phenomenon] Scammers all appeal to the
> > mark's
> >         cupidity, thus in each case there being a hint of impropriety, never
> > quite
> >         reaching the level of illegality, in what the mark is expected to do
> > to get
> >         Loadsamoney.
> > 
> >         Hey, let's not knock it -- it worked (well enough) in 1600, and it
> > still seems
> >         to work often enough today for it to be still worth practicing.
> > 
> >         Sad old world, if you can bear to think about it. The Web seems
> > intent on (among
> >         other things) replicating, while spinning the electrons, scams which
> > prolly
> >         reach back to the time when a sharp chimpanzee first conned a
> > silver-backed
> >         gorilla out of his [sic] territory, while a couple of  bonobo
> > monkeys looked on
> >         disapprovingly.
> > 
> >         Robin
> > 
> >         (Aside: In the scale of primate social co-operativeness, homo
> > sapiens as a whole
> >         sits on a level with chimpanzees, above silver-backed gorillas but
> > well below
> >         the heights achieved by bonobo monkeys.  Puts us in our place, that
> > does, in
> >         more ways than one.  Bonobo monkeys are apparently even happy, or at
> > least,
> >         willing, to welcome immigrants from other tribes.  R.)
> > 
> >         >
> >         >     On 02 October 2016 at 21:23 Wilson Gray <hwgray at GMAIL.COM
> >         > mailto:hwgray at GMAIL.COM > wrote:
> >         >
> >         >
> >         >     Isn't "Nigerian _letter_" the older term for this particular
> >         > scam, which
> >         > is
> >         >     two days older than water?
> >         >
> >         >     Esquire - Volume 77 - Page 184
> >         >     https://books.google.com/books?id=gWJXAAAAYAAJ
> >         >     William S. Burroughs - 1972 - ‎Snippet view
> >         >     A typical _Nigerian letter_. The correspondence closes with
> >         > three
> >         >     "references of long standing business" and the illegible
> >         > signature of a
> >         >     "Director." I answered. "Dr. Mr. Director:
> >         >
> >         >     "Many good thanks for your letter.
> >         >
> >         >     "We at X-Pando are not financially equipped to send $400
> >         > [approx.
> >         >     $3700, today] worth of free samples sight unseen even to such
> >         > a
> >         >     well-established firm as yours. We promise you that the
> >         > X-Pandotite in the
> >         >     one-pound can is exactly the same X-Pandotite as in the
> >         > 100-pound drum.
> >         >     Only more of it.
> >         >
> >         >     "We have checked your three references. At present writing two
> >         > have
> >         >     answered:
> >         >     "We do business only on the basis of an irrevocable letter of
> >         > credit."
> >         >
> >         >     I thought that had ended it. Yet I am surprised by yet another
> >         > letter.
> >         >
> >         >     On Sun, Oct 2, 2016 at 11:18 AM, Margaret Winters
> >         > <mewinters at wayne.edu mailto:mewinters at wayne.edu >
> >         >     wrote:
> >         >
> >         >     > The "IRS" has been sending threatening emails and - even
> >         >     > worse -
> >         >     > threatening phone calls for quite a while now. One version
> >         >     > demands
> >         >     > payment
> >         >     > by gift cards (!) for a 'student tax', targeting
> >         >     > undergraduates new to
> >         >     > grown-up finance, but there are many versions. We get a call
> >         >     > once or
> >         >     > twice
> >         >     > a week and delete from our answering machine - no spam
> >         >     > filter equivalent
> >         >     > there.
> >         >     >
> >         >     >
> >         >     > sigh,
> >         >     >
> >         >     > Margaret
> >         >     >
> >         >     >
> >         >     > ----------------------------
> >         >     > MARGARET E WINTERS
> >         >     > On Leave
> >         >     > Office of the Provost
> >         >     > Wayne State University
> >         >     > Detroit, MI 48202
> >         >     >
> >         >     > mewinters at wayne.edu mailto:mewinters at wayne.edu
> >         >     >
> >         >     >
> >         >     >
> >         >     > ________________________________
> >         >     > From: American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> >         >     > mailto:ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > on behalf of
> >         >     > Robin Hamilton <robin.hamilton3 at VIRGINMEDIA.COM
> >         >     > mailto:robin.hamilton3 at VIRGINMEDIA.COM >
> >         >     > Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2016 11:06 AM
> >         >     > To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU mailto:ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> >         >     > Subject: OT: The Nigerian Scam revisited
> >         >     >
> >         >     > I've just had an email (which my ISP rightly decided, with
> >         >     > acute
> >         >     > disdain,
> >         >     > to
> >         >     > relegate to my Spam folder) threatening [sic!] me with legal
> >         >     > action from
> >         >     > everyone from the IRS to the United Nations, if I don't send
> >         >     > them at
> >         >     > least
> >         >     > a
> >         >     > token payment on an overdue debt.
> >         >     >
> >         >     > I don't remember coming on this particular variant on an
> >         >     > old-established
> >         >     > ritual
> >         >     > before.
> >         >     >
> >         >     > Anyone else had one of these? Or am I the only sad person on
> >         >     > this list
> >         >     > who
> >         >     > checks their Spam folder?
> >         >     >
> >         >     > Robin
> >         >     >
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