[Ads-l] dark poll

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Thu Oct 27 10:43:46 UTC 2016


The question remains: do what "they" call "dark polls" even exist -
outside, perhaps, of places like Russia?

And do "they" encompass anybody beyond Mr. DT and his alt-right buddies?

JL

On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 11:33 PM, Dan Goncharoff <thegonch at gmail.com> wrote:

> I believe that Trump believes that any poll that shows him losing is
> purposely trying to make him lose = a dark poll.
>
> On Oct 26, 2016 7:46 PM, "Laurence Horn" <laurence.horn at yale.edu> wrote:
>
> > > On Oct 26, 2016, at 5:02 PM, Dan Goncharoff <thegonch at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Sure -- all the wrong ones.
> > >
> > > There have always been accusations against polling organizations that
> > they
> > > are biased, either intentionally or not. Didn't the Goldwater campaign
> > > accuse the Gallup organization of being a "propaganda machine"? (Didn't
> > the
> > > Gallup organization predict Romney the victor over Obama?)
> > >
> > > DanG
> >
> > I know there were some Republican-friendly polls that were apparently
> > widely believed at the time that predicted Romney, but I don't recall
> > whether Gallup was among them.  There was the famous example (I assume
> > actual and not apocryphal) of polls that predicted a landslide defeat of
> > the Democratic candidate (Truman vs. Dewey? FDR vs. somebody?) that was
> > flawed by having been conducted by telephone at a time when many voters
> > were too poor to have one.  But that wasn't a dark poll, just a stupid
> one.
> >
> > LH
> > >
> > > On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 6:41 AM, Jonathan Lighter <
> > wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Have we any proof that "they" call "them" "dark polls"?
> > >>
> > >> That seems like a very strange concept for any polling organization.
> The
> > >> "dark polls" that the T---p alluded to were polls from prominent,
> > reputable
> > >> sources indicating he's behind.
> > >>
> > >> Can anyone cite some actual, phony "dark polls" in the United States?
> > >>
> > >> JL
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 9:40 PM, Berson at att.net <Berson at att.net>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> One Tweet, according to Rachel Maddow just now, has "the the Trump."
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> I am reminded of that other sociopath, Zippy the Pinhead's "Mr. The
> > >> Toad."
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> If I have his name right.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Joel
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone
> > >>>
> > >>> ------ Original message------
> > >>> *From: *Jonathan Lighter
> > >>> *Date: *Mon, Oct 24, 2016 5:48 PM
> > >>> *To: *ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
> > >>> *Subject:*[ADS-L] dark poll
> > >>>
> > >>> T---p (or, as he now styles himself, "t
> > >>>
> > >>> "the T---p"):
> > >>>
> > >>> "They call them 'dark polls.'
> > >>>
> > >>> They are phony polls put out
> > >>>
> > >>> by phonymedia...to suppress
> > >>>
> > >>> the vote."
> > >>>
> > >>> JL-- "If the truth is half as bad as I think it is, you can't handle
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