[Ads-l] surreptually

Cohen, Gerald Leonard gcohen at MST.EDU
Sun Sep 11 16:19:04 EDT 2016


I selected "conceptually" because of its -pt- (therefore: overlap with 
-pt- in "surreptitiously").

Gerald Cohen 
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Laurence Horn [laurence.horn at YALE.EDU]m Sunday, September 11, 2016 2:52 PM, wrote:

> On Sep 11, 2016, at 3:39 PM, Cohen, Gerald Leonard <gcohen at MST.EDU> =
wrote:
>> "Surreptually" seems to have arisen by the influence of 
"conceptually." I hesitate to call this new
> word a blend because "surreptitious" and "conceptual" aren't synonyms.
>=> Gerald Cohen 
Why "conceptually" rather than "virtually", or "actually", or 
"factually", or "eventually", or "perpetually"?  Maybe it's just that 
-ally is found in various adverbial forms, some of which appear as 
-tually because of a /tu/ in the adjectival (or nominal) stem?  I agree 
that there's influence, but not necessarily from a single lexical item. 


LH
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> Jonathan Lighter [wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM], Friday, September 09, 2016 =
8:50 AM, wrote:
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>> imperfect acquisition of English by a nonnative speaker.
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> So naive: =
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>> It tests the boundary between English and non-English.
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> Nov shmoz ka pop!
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> JL
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> On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 9:11 AM, David Barnhart =
<dbarnhart at highlands.com>
> wrote:
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>> If I had to attribute this to some process it would have to do with
>> imperfect acquisition of English by a nonnative speaker.  It tests =
the
>> boundary between English and non-English.
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>> Adm James Stavridis, former NATO Supreme Commander, warns MSNBC that =
that
>> North Korean submarines can surreptually approach the United States.
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