[Ads-l] The NY Times prints "nigger" ...

Robin Hamilton robin.hamilton3 at VIRGINMEDIA.COM
Wed Sep 14 20:39:25 EDT 2016


As a possibly-related question, why does Edgar Wallace, in the Sanders stories,
give his kikes Scottish surnames?

... ah, I guess that's an easy one.  Which two ethnic (scan as either
geographical or religious) groups get tagged as mean (in the sense of stingy,
not the other sense referring to out-and-out mental hardmen)?

                   Robin don't-call-me-McGregor-[Campbell] Hamilton

[That particular can of worms was opened at the point where the Massacre at
Glencoe intersected with an interesting if possibly necessary Scottish law, an
early example of Profiling, whereby it was decreed that if four or more
McGregors were found together under the one roof at nightfall, they were all to
be hangit.  Thegither.  And no jooking of the gibbet allowed.]

RH.

> 
>     On 15 September 2016 at 01:20 Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at YALE.EDU>
> wrote:
> 
> 
>     > On Sep 14, 2016, at 7:29 PM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM>
>     > wrote:
>     >
>     > 1. A stupid or worthless person. Obs.
>     >
>     > 1908 Kenneth McGaffey _The Sorrows of a Show Girl_ (Chicago: J. I.
>     > Austen)
>     > 17: Some old pappy guy out in Chi.... I don't know who or what this old
>     > wop is that made this crack.
>     >
>     > 2. An Italian.
>     >
>     > 1912 Rex Beach _The Net_ (N.Y.: Harper) 154: Do you see that...wop next
>     > to
>     > Cesar Maruffi?
>     >
>     > 1913 _Saturday Eve. Post_ (March 25) 10: He had eaten...a banana
>     > snatched
>     > from the stand of a somnolent "wop."
>     >
>     > [Etc.]
>     >
>     > (Also, any person of Southern or Central European descent; the Italian
>     > language.)
>     >
> 
> 
>     Not to be confused with wogs, reputed to start at Calais. Perhaps that's
> now official doctrine, given Brexit.
> 
>     LH
> 
> 
>     > On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 5:16 PM, Joel Berson <berson at att.net> wrote:
>     >
>     >> and "wetback" and "chink" also. Today, in "A [Racially ] Charged Title.
>     >> A
>     >> Canceled Show. Now a Cal State Official Resigns." [Bracketed "Racially"
>     >> on
>     >> paper, but not in electrons.] By Andrew R. Chow. Page C5/1 in New
>     >> England
>     >> edition.
>     >>
>     >> "Michele Roberge, the director of the Carpenter Performing Arts Center
>     >> at
>     >> California State University, Long Beach, resigned last week after the
>     >> university told her to cancel a campus performance of a racially
>     >> charged
>     >> show."
>     >>
>     >> "The play, “N*W*C,” whose full title is three racial slurs, stars three
>     >> actors of African-American, Asian and Latino descent [not in that
>     >> order!]
>     >> as they reflect on their conflicted experience with race in America.
>     >> The
>     >> slurs are used in an attempt to deflate them, according to a 2007 New
>     >> York
>     >> Times interview with the show’s creators. The performance was scheduled
>     >> for
>     >> Sept. 29."...
>     >>
>     >> "The play, written by Allan Axibal, Rafael Agustín and Miles Gregley,
>     >> had
>     >> its debut in 2007. The three authors have been performing it steadily
>     >> on
>     >> campuses across the country, including a sold-out performance on the
>     >> Long
>     >> Beach campus last year. While the title of the show (the initials stand
>     >> for
>     >> 'nigger,' 'wetback' and 'chink') was initially criticized by the Long
>     >> Beach
>     >> branch of the N.A.A.C.P., Ms. Roberge said there were no live protests
>     >> before or after the performance."
>     >>
>     >> (A more racially-offensive W than "wetback" would have been "wop,"
>     >> although I suppose that might have required dating the play 100 years
>     >> earlier. As a side note, however, the OED dates "wop" to 1919 and
>     >> "wetback" to only 10 years later -- the latter perhaps an outlier,
>     >> since
>     >> the next quotation is 1972.)
>     >>
>     >> Joel
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
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