[Ads-l] arrow-space

Laurence Horn laurence.horn at YALE.EDU
Sun Aug 6 14:48:37 EDT 2017


> On Aug 6, 2017, at 2:29 PM, Barretts Mail <mail.barretts at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
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>> On 6 Aug 2017, at 11:28, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at YALE.EDU> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Aug 6, 2017, at 2:17 PM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM <mailto:wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> "Arrow" rhymes with "sparrow," "marrow," and "harrow," but "aero" rhymes
>>> with the local pronunciation of "Cairo," Illinois. Or "pair o'," as in
>>> "pair o' words that rhyme."
>>> 
>>> At least for me.
>> 
>> And “pharaoh”.   Actually, now that I think of it, I distinguish “pharaoh” (as in “aerospace”) from “farro” (the “ancient grain”).  
>> Also “Pretty Saro” (traditional song).  But not Varro, the Roman grammarian—he rhymes with arrow.
>> 
> 
> More homophones to me. How about some IPA? BB

Carey [keri]. (Vowel of Mary, pharaoh)
carry [kæri]. (Vowel of marry, farro)
Kerry [kɛri].  (Vowel of merry, ferry)

Imperfect, because of r-coloring.  My “Carey” vowel doesn't quite end up the same as my “Kate” vowel, although they start out the same.  Actually, now that I think of it, the stressed vowel of Cairo/Karo is a better fit for [e] than that of Carey.

LH
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>>> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 1:53 PM, Peter Reitan <pjreitan at hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>>> Is there any other way to pronounce it?
>>>> 
>>>> I remember seeing a linguistics educational cartoon in Jr. High.
>>>> 
>>>> In one of the scenes, a character says that he can determine where someone
>>>> is from by they way they pronounce the words "merry," "Mary" and "marry."
>>>> 
>>>> I remember thinking - "but they are all pronounced the same!"  Only years
>>>> later, when I went East for school, did I appreciate the various ways some
>>>> people distinguish among those words.
>>>> 
>>>> I guess I feel the same way about aero and arrow.
>>>> 
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>>>> There might be a difference in my pronunciation, but I think they=E2=80=99=
>>>> re the same. BB
>>>> 
>>>>> On 6 Aug 2017, at 07:19, James A. Landau <JJJRLandau at NETSCAPE.COM> =
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> =20
>>>>> At a meeting this week, two different people pronounced "aerospace" as =
>>>> something close to /arrow-space/.  Has anyone else heard this?
>>>>> =20
>>>>> - Jim Landau
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