[Ads-l] Request details of citation in Boston Daily Journal in 1865

George Thompson george.thompson at NYU.EDU
Mon Aug 14 22:25:00 EDT 2017


EAN/AHN, series 5, has a file of the Boston Daily Journal beginning with
1866 (vol. XXXIII).

GAT

On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 7:35 PM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Garson, the version of _Early American Newspapers_ held by the UT Libraries
> appears to include only Series 1, 2, and 3.
>
> No Boston Journal.
>
> JL
>
> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 6:29 PM, ADSGarson O'Toole <
> adsgarsonotoole at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > JL: Thank you very much for renewing your password and accessing the
> > database. It's disappointing that the database holdings were so small
> > for the Boston Daily Journal. I will let Dennis Lien know that the
> > thoughtful lead he shared did not quite work out.
> >
> > Dennis also pointed to another database. I wonder if Readex has
> > expanded since the description was written.
> >
> > [Begin excerpt]
> > The BOSTON JOURNAL is also available as part of Series 5 of the Readex
> > project EARLY AMERICAN NEWSPAPERS, but unfortunately the holdings
> > there start with January 1, 1866, so too late for your citation
> >
> > http://www.readex.com/content/early-american-newspapers-series
> > http://titlelist.readex.com/source/servlet/index.html?
> > operation=Early%20American%20Newspapers
> >
> > Early American Newspapers, Series 5, 1777-1922: An Emerging World Power
> > Late 19th- and Early 20th-Century Newspapers
> > [End excerpt]
> >
> > Garson
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 5:55 PM, Jonathan Lighter
> > <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Garson, the database American History 1493-1945 appears to have only a
> > > single issue of the Boston [Daily] Journal. Very unfortunately, it's
> the
> > > issue for Wednesday. May 11, 1864.
> > >
> > > A search shows nothing resembling the needed passage.
> > >
> > > JL
> > >
> > > On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 9:26 AM, Jonathan Lighter <
> > wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Garson, I have access, but it looks as though I'll have to renew my
> > >> password - in person.
> > >>
> > >> Maybe I can do it this afternoon.
> > >>
> > >> JL
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 9:19 AM, ADSGarson O'Toole <
> > >> adsgarsonotoole at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Apparently, the Boston Daily Journal in April 1865 is available in a
> > >>> database that is part of the Adam Matthew Digital collections. The
> > >>> database is called:
> > >>>
> > >>> American History: 1493-1945 The Gilder Lehrman Collection
> > >>>
> > >>> This information is courtesy of former librarian Dennis Lien. If your
> > >>> organization has access to this database and you wish to help please
> > >>> let me know off-list or on-list.
> > >>>
> > >>> Stephen raises some valuable questions. I haven't tried to identify
> E.
> > K.
> > >>>
> > >>> Garson
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 7:35 AM, Stephen Goranson <goranson at duke.edu
> >
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>> > This quote sounds like Lincoln, as far as I know. I wonder who E.K.
> > was
> > >>> and why, if he interviewed Lincoln in July 1864, he or she waited
> until
> > >>> April 1865 to write about it. Some later reprintings of the quote
> call
> > E.
> > >>> K. a correspondent or, without evidence, a "newspaperman." But a
> > reporter
> > >>> would likely have already reported an interview, and might have used
> > his
> > >>> full name. Though there are so many biographies of Lincoln, a quick
> > search
> > >>> suggests that none have identified E. K., which may be possible. (I
> > did not
> > >>> find the original newspaper online.) From Massachusetts? A
> politician?
> > A
> > >>> minister? Visitor to the White House?...
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Stephen Goranson
> > >>> >
> > >>> > http://people.duke.edu/~goranson/
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > ________________________________
> > >>> > From: American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU> on behalf
> of
> > >>> ADSGarson O'Toole <adsgarsonotoole at GMAIL.COM>
> > >>> > Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 10:24 AM
> > >>> > To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> > >>> > Subject: [ADS-L] Request details of citation in Boston Daily
> Journal
> > in
> > >>> 1865
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Back in July, I received a request from a Wall Street Journal
> writer
> > >>> > via twitter to explore a quotation attributed to Abraham Lincoln.
> The
> > >>> > quotation is popular, e.g., CNN tweeted it on July 4, and the
> > >>> > statement is engraved on the wall at the Newseum. Yet, the
> quotation
> > >>> > is slightly inaccurate.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > [Begin excerpt]
> > >>> > Let the people know the facts and the country will be safe.
> > >>> > [End excerpt]
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Barry Popik found a key citation dated April 29, 1865. I pushed the
> > >>> > date back to April 21, 1865. Both of these citations pointed to an
> > >>> > origin in the Boston Journal.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Historian Yoni Appelbaum then located the earliest citation in
> Boston
> > >>> > Daily Journal on April 17, 1865, and he tweeted an image.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter
> > >>> .com_YAppelbaum_status_882564306239451137&d=DwIBaQ&c=imBPVzF
> > >>> 25OnBgGmVOlcsiEgHoG1i6YHLR0Sj_gZ4adc&r=uUVa-8oDL2EzfbuMuowoU
> > >>> adHHcJ7pjul6iFkS5Pd--8&m=A-9jPdp0K2iQNBw0Y0H9EhKSnPAeezJ9YGp
> > >>> D66JDLxg&s=ca__bTK08DJs9TSB0hEX2fq9yNIbots648R2qUAu7vM&e=
> > >>> > [https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DD9_iZhXUAAIqKR.jpg:large]<http
> > >>> s://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.
> > >>> com_YAppelbaum_status_882564306239451137&d=DwIBaQ&c=imBPVzF2
> > >>> 5OnBgGmVOlcsiEgHoG1i6YHLR0Sj_gZ4adc&r=uUVa-8oDL2EzfbuMuowoU
> > >>> adHHcJ7pjul6iFkS5Pd--8&m=A-9jPdp0K2iQNBw0Y0H9EhKSnPAeezJ9YGp
> > >>> D66JDLxg&s=ca__bTK08DJs9TSB0hEX2fq9yNIbots648R2qUAu7vM&e=>
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Yoni Appelbaum on Twitter<https://urldefense.pro
> > >>> ofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.com_YAppelbaum_status
> > >>> _882564306239451137&d=DwIBaQ&c=imBPVzF25OnBgGmVOlcsiEgHoG1i
> > >>> 6YHLR0Sj_gZ4adc&r=uUVa-8oDL2EzfbuMuowoUadHHcJ7pjul6iFkS5Pd--
> > >>> 8&m=A-9jPdp0K2iQNBw0Y0H9EhKSnPAeezJ9YGpD66JDLxg&s=ca__bTK08D
> > >>> Js9TSB0hEX2fq9yNIbots648R2qUAu7vM&e=>
> > >>> > urldefense.proofpoint.com
> > >>> > “@QuoteResearch @terryteachout @bdomenech Oh, that’s very well
> done.
> > >>> The original ran in the Boston Daily Journal, April 17, signed
> “E.K."”
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > [Begin excerpt]
> > >>> > "I have faith in the people. They will not consent to disunion. The
> > >>> > danger is, that they are misled. Let them know the truth and the
> > >>> > country is safe."
> > >>> > [End except]
> > >>> >
> > >>> > What database contains the page images for in the Boston Daily
> > Journal
> > >>> > citation? Alternatively, if someone could send me a PDF or jpg of
> the
> > >>> > page containing the quotation I would be most grateful. Thanks.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Garson
> > >>> > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.
> > >>> americandialect.org&d=DwIBaQ&c=imBPVzF25OnBgGmVOlcsiEgHoG1i
> > >>> 6YHLR0Sj_gZ4adc&r=uUVa-8oDL2EzfbuMuowoUadHHcJ7pjul6iFkS5Pd--
> > >>> 8&m=A-9jPdp0K2iQNBw0Y0H9EhKSnPAeezJ9YGpD66JDLxg&s=vlj2ICAKMA
> > >>> pOBm6IGESrH8asQHYCn9CP1C-GD0POWzw&e=>
> > >>> >
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> > >> "If the truth is half as bad as I think it is, you can't handle the
> > truth."
> > >>
> > >
> > >
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