[Ads-l] Request details of citation in Boston Daily Journal in 1865

Tue Aug 15 03:03:38 UTC 2017

I presented the wrong information for Duke, Here is the correct range
although I do not know if it accurately reflects the library holdings.

HOLDING: Duke Univ Libr, Durham, NC
<1865:1:5-1866:7:28>

Garson

On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 11:00 PM, ADSGarson O'Toole
<adsgarsonotoole at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks for looking, George.
>
> Chronicling America has an entry for the newspaper.
> http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn84022618/holdings/
>
> It appears that some libraries around the country have it. Here are a few:
>
> HOLDING: Duke Univ Libr, Durham, NC
> <1866:10:6-1867:12:23>
>
> HOLDING: Boston Athenaeum, Boston, MA
> <1845:4:1-1865:8:28>
>
> HOLDING: Dartmouth Col, Hanover, NH
> <1864:1:1-1866:12:31>
>
> Garson
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 10:25 PM, George Thompson
> <george.thompson at nyu.edu> wrote:
>> EAN/AHN, series 5, has a file of the Boston Daily Journal beginning with
>> 1866 (vol. XXXIII).
>>
>> GAT
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 7:35 PM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Garson, the version of _Early American Newspapers_ held by the UT Libraries
>>> appears to include only Series 1, 2, and 3.
>>>
>>> No Boston Journal.
>>>
>>> JL
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 6:29 PM, ADSGarson O'Toole <
>>> adsgarsonotoole at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > JL: Thank you very much for renewing your password and accessing the
>>> > database. It's disappointing that the database holdings were so small
>>> > for the Boston Daily Journal. I will let Dennis Lien know that the
>>> > thoughtful lead he shared did not quite work out.
>>> >
>>> > Dennis also pointed to another database. I wonder if Readex has
>>> > expanded since the description was written.
>>> >
>>> > [Begin excerpt]
>>> > The BOSTON JOURNAL is also available as part of Series 5 of the Readex
>>> > project EARLY AMERICAN NEWSPAPERS, but unfortunately the holdings
>>> > there start with January 1, 1866, so too late for your citation
>>> >
>>> > http://www.readex.com/content/early-american-newspapers-series
>>> > http://titlelist.readex.com/source/servlet/index.html?
>>> > operation=Early%20American%20Newspapers
>>> >
>>> > Early American Newspapers, Series 5, 1777-1922: An Emerging World Power
>>> > Late 19th- and Early 20th-Century Newspapers
>>> > [End excerpt]
>>> >
>>> > Garson
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 5:55 PM, Jonathan Lighter
>>> > <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > > Garson, the database American History 1493-1945 appears to have only a
>>> > > single issue of the Boston [Daily] Journal. Very unfortunately, it's
>>> the
>>> > > issue for Wednesday. May 11, 1864.
>>> > >
>>> > > A search shows nothing resembling the needed passage.
>>> > >
>>> > > JL
>>> > >
>>> > > On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 9:26 AM, Jonathan Lighter <
>>> > wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
>>> > > wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > >> Garson, I have access, but it looks as though I'll have to renew my
>>> > >> password - in person.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Maybe I can do it this afternoon.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> JL
>>> > >>
>>> > >> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 9:19 AM, ADSGarson O'Toole <
>>> > >> adsgarsonotoole at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > >>
>>> > >>> Apparently, the Boston Daily Journal in April 1865 is available in a
>>> > >>> database that is part of the Adam Matthew Digital collections. The
>>> > >>> database is called:
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> American History: 1493-1945 The Gilder Lehrman Collection
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> This information is courtesy of former librarian Dennis Lien. If your
>>> > >>> organization has access to this database and you wish to help please
>>> > >>> let me know off-list or on-list.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> Stephen raises some valuable questions. I haven't tried to identify
>>> E.
>>> > K.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> Garson
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 7:35 AM, Stephen Goranson <goranson at duke.edu
>>> >
>>> > >>> wrote:
>>> > >>> > This quote sounds like Lincoln, as far as I know. I wonder who E.K.
>>> > was
>>> > >>> and why, if he interviewed Lincoln in July 1864, he or she waited
>>> until
>>> > >>> April 1865 to write about it. Some later reprintings of the quote
>>> call
>>> > E.
>>> > >>> K. a correspondent or, without evidence, a "newspaperman." But a
>>> > reporter
>>> > >>> would likely have already reported an interview, and might have used
>>> > his
>>> > >>> full name. Though there are so many biographies of Lincoln, a quick
>>> > search
>>> > >>> suggests that none have identified E. K., which may be possible. (I
>>> > did not
>>> > >>> find the original newspaper online.) From Massachusetts? A
>>> politician?
>>> > A
>>> > >>> minister? Visitor to the White House?...
>>> > >>> >
>>> > >>> >
>>> > >>> > Stephen Goranson
>>> > >>> >
>>> > >>> > http://people.duke.edu/~goranson/
>>> > >>> >
>>> > >>> >
>>> > >>> >
>>> > >>> > ________________________________
>>> > >>> > From: American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU> on behalf
>>> of
>>> > >>> ADSGarson O'Toole <adsgarsonotoole at GMAIL.COM>
>>> > >>> > Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 10:24 AM
>>> > >>> > To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>>> > >>> > Subject: [ADS-L] Request details of citation in Boston Daily
>>> Journal
>>> > in
>>> > >>> 1865
>>> > >>> >
>>> > >>> > Back in July, I received a request from a Wall Street Journal
>>> writer
>>> > >>> > via twitter to explore a quotation attributed to Abraham Lincoln.
>>> The
>>> > >>> > quotation is popular, e.g., CNN tweeted it on July 4, and the
>>> > >>> > statement is engraved on the wall at the Newseum. Yet, the
>>> quotation
>>> > >>> > is slightly inaccurate.
>>> > >>> >
>>> > >>> > [Begin excerpt]
>>> > >>> > Let the people know the facts and the country will be safe.
>>> > >>> > [End excerpt]
>>> > >>> >
>>> > >>> > Barry Popik found a key citation dated April 29, 1865. I pushed the
>>> > >>> > date back to April 21, 1865. Both of these citations pointed to an
>>> > >>> > origin in the Boston Journal.
>>> > >>> >
>>> > >>> > Historian Yoni Appelbaum then located the earliest citation in
>>> Boston
>>> > >>> > Daily Journal on April 17, 1865, and he tweeted an image.
>>> > >>> >
>>> > >>> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter
>>> > >>> .com_YAppelbaum_status_882564306239451137&d=DwIBaQ&c=imBPVzF
>>> > >>> 25OnBgGmVOlcsiEgHoG1i6YHLR0Sj_gZ4adc&r=uUVa-8oDL2EzfbuMuowoU
>>> > >>> adHHcJ7pjul6iFkS5Pd--8&m=A-9jPdp0K2iQNBw0Y0H9EhKSnPAeezJ9YGp
>>> > >>> D66JDLxg&s=ca__bTK08DJs9TSB0hEX2fq9yNIbots648R2qUAu7vM&e=
>>> > >>> > [https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DD9_iZhXUAAIqKR.jpg:large]<http
>>> > >>> s://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.
>>> > >>> com_YAppelbaum_status_882564306239451137&d=DwIBaQ&c=imBPVzF2
>>> > >>> 5OnBgGmVOlcsiEgHoG1i6YHLR0Sj_gZ4adc&r=uUVa-8oDL2EzfbuMuowoU
>>> > >>> adHHcJ7pjul6iFkS5Pd--8&m=A-9jPdp0K2iQNBw0Y0H9EhKSnPAeezJ9YGp
>>> > >>> D66JDLxg&s=ca__bTK08DJs9TSB0hEX2fq9yNIbots648R2qUAu7vM&e=>
>>> > >>> >
>>> > >>> > Yoni Appelbaum on Twitter<https://urldefense.pro
>>> > >>> ofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.com_YAppelbaum_status
>>> > >>> _882564306239451137&d=DwIBaQ&c=imBPVzF25OnBgGmVOlcsiEgHoG1i
>>> > >>> 6YHLR0Sj_gZ4adc&r=uUVa-8oDL2EzfbuMuowoUadHHcJ7pjul6iFkS5Pd--
>>> > >>> 8&m=A-9jPdp0K2iQNBw0Y0H9EhKSnPAeezJ9YGpD66JDLxg&s=ca__bTK08D
>>> > >>> Js9TSB0hEX2fq9yNIbots648R2qUAu7vM&e=>
>>> > >>> > urldefense.proofpoint.com
>>> > >>> > “@QuoteResearch @terryteachout @bdomenech Oh, that’s very well
>>> done.
>>> > >>> The original ran in the Boston Daily Journal, April 17, signed
>>> “E.K."”
>>> > >>> >
>>> > >>> >
>>> > >>> >
>>> > >>> > [Begin excerpt]
>>> > >>> > "I have faith in the people. They will not consent to disunion. The
>>> > >>> > danger is, that they are misled. Let them know the truth and the
>>> > >>> > country is safe."
>>> > >>> > [End except]
>>> > >>> >
>>> > >>> > What database contains the page images for in the Boston Daily
>>> > Journal
>>> > >>> > citation? Alternatively, if someone could send me a PDF or jpg of
>>> the
>>> > >>> > page containing the quotation I would be most grateful. Thanks.
>>> > >>> >
>>> > >>> > Garson
>>> > >>> > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.
>>> > >>> americandialect.org&d=DwIBaQ&c=imBPVzF25OnBgGmVOlcsiEgHoG1i
>>> > >>> 6YHLR0Sj_gZ4adc&r=uUVa-8oDL2EzfbuMuowoUadHHcJ7pjul6iFkS5Pd--
>>> > >>> 8&m=A-9jPdp0K2iQNBw0Y0H9EhKSnPAeezJ9YGpD66JDLxg&s=vlj2ICAKMA
>>> > >>> pOBm6IGESrH8asQHYCn9CP1C-GD0POWzw&e=>
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> George A. Thompson
>> The Guy Who Still Looks Stuff Up in Books.
>> Author of A Documentary History of "The African Theatre", Northwestern
>> Univ. Pr., 1998.
>>
>> But when aroused at the Trump of Doom / Ye shall start, bold kings, from
>> your lowly tomb. . .
>> L. H. Sigourney, "Burial of Mazeen", Poems.  Boston, 1827, p. 112
>>
>> The Trump of Doom -- affectionately (of course) also known as The Dunghill
>> Toadstool.  (Here's a picture of one.)
>> http://www.parliament.uk/worksofart/artwork/james-gillray/an-excrescence---a-fungus-alias-a-toadstool-upon-a-dunghill/3851
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