[Ads-l] stumbling stone

Wilson Gray hwgray at GMAIL.COM
Fri Dec 15 17:34:40 EST 2017


I see your point, especially since the RCCh uses less-colorful,
less-Biblical, duller language.

"Becoming a stumbling-block," in the relevant sense, is expressed as,
"becoming an occasion of sin."

Well, in my day, at least. It's been a while! If it wasn't for weddings and
funerals...

On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 4:07 PM, MULLINS, WILLIAM D (Bill) CIV USARMY
RDECOM AMRDEC (US) <william.d.mullins18.civ at mail.mil> wrote:

> Not just Catholicism.  The Protestant church I was raised in taught the
> same thing - that Jesus as revealed in the NT was the fulfillment of the OT.
>
> But my general point still stands -- If a Kentucky farmer makes a
> reference to a "stumbling stone", to the extent that his religious
> upbringing influenced his choice of words, it was far more likely to be
> from the NT references to a "stumbling block" than to the (single?) OT
> reference.   I was told often as a youth to be pure in thought, word and
> deed, lest my malfeasances influence another to stray, and I become a
> stumbling block on his soul's path to heaven.
>
> >
> > > a Kentucky farmer is far more likely to be influenced by the use of
> > > the
> > phrase in Christian
> > > doctrine than in Jewish doctrine.
> >
> > You never know. In Catholicism - and Catholics are traditionally
> supposed not to be Bible-readers - the Old Testament is held to be full of
> > "foreshadowings" that demonstrate the truth of the New Testament, hence
> the truth of the One, True Faith. The OT, for all practical,
> > theological purposes, has nothing to do with Jewish doctrine. Rather,
> it's the backstory of the NT. And, if there's anything in the OT that is
> > even tangentially relevant to Christian doctrine, it was noticed and
> noted a thousand years before Luther. Cf., e.g. Melchizedek.
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melchizedek
> >
> > Old Testament lines matter.
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 11:45 AM, MULLINS, WILLIAM D (Bill) CIV USARMY
> RDECOM AMRDEC (US) <william.d.mullins18.civ at mail.mil>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > >
> > > > Isn't "stumbling block" in the Old Testament, too? (Leviticus 19:14)
> > > >
> > >
> > > Yes, it is, but I'd bet a Kentucky farmer is far more likely to be
> > > influenced by the use of the phrase in Christian doctrine than in
> > > Jewish doctrine.
> > > Which is why I only mentioned the New Testament.
> > >
> > >
> > > > DanG
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 11:21 AM, MULLINS, WILLIAM D (Bill) CIV
> > > > USARMY
> > > RDECOM AMRDEC (US) <william.d.mullins18.civ at mail.mil>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A farmer in Kentucky tells CNN's Poppy Harlow that too many
> > > > > > people are
> > > > > putting "stumbling stones" in the path of the president.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > JL
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Probably related to the "stumbling block" of the New Testament.
> > > > >
> > > > >
>
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