[Ads-l] A winner-go-home game

Laurence Horn laurence.horn at YALE.EDU
Wed Dec 20 18:34:01 UTC 2017


My guess is that it refers to the question from the interviewer as to whether the Saints are over their earlier difficulty with winning on the road. Vilma is saying that in these heightened life-or-death, win-or-go-home (or loser-go-home) circumstances, that’s no longer a matter of concern.

> On Dec 20, 2017, at 1:22 PM, Dan Goncharoff <thegonch at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> 
> But what the "that" in "that's an issue"?
> 
> DanG
> 
> On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 1:20 PM, ADSGarson O'Toole <
> adsgarsonotoole at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Here is a link to the article.
>> 
>> http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf/2012/01/new_orleans_
>> saints_lb_jonathan_5.html
>> 
>> My hypothesis was that both phrases should have been rendered as "win
>> or go home".
>> 
>> [Begin suggestion for corrected transcript]
>> "Obviously the playoffs are win or go home and teams are literally
>> fighting for their lives. When you talk about win or go home, I don't
>> think that's an issue.
>> [End suggestion for corrected transcript]
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 1:06 PM, Dan Goncharoff <thegonch at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> I am trying to understand the excerpt. The context seems to be "losing on
>>> the road", and that losing may be a desirable result because it allows
>> the
>>> loser to go home.
>>> 
>>> Otherwise, it seems like gibberish.
>>> 
>>> DanG
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 12:58 PM, ADSGarson O'Toole <
>>> adsgarsonotoole at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Below is a 2012 transcript in which the phrases "winner go home" and
>>>> "win or go home" are adjacent. I do not know if the transcription was
>>>> performed with the help of voice recognition software, but the
>>>> divergent phrases from the same speaker point to a transcription
>>>> error.
>>>> 
>>>> Title: New Orleans Saints LB Jonathan Vilma conference call transcript
>>>> Author: James Varney (NOLA.com, The Times-Picayune)
>>>> Timestamp: January 08, 2012 at 1:40 PM, updated January 08, 2012 at
>> 1:50 PM
>>>> 
>>>> [Begin excerpt]
>>>> Saints linebacker Jonathan Vilma spoke with reporters this morning.
>>>> Here is a transcript of that Q&A:
>>>> 
>>>> Why is it possibly not valid anymore that the team's struggles on the
>>>> road this season are behind them?
>>>> 
>>>> "Obviously the playoffs are winner go home and teams are literally
>>>> fighting for their lives. When you talk about win or go home, I don't
>>>> think that's an issue. I think it's about executing, planning and
>>>> doing what it takes to win the game.
>>>> [End excerpt]
>>>> 
>>>> Garson
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu
>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> On Dec 20, 2017, at 11:26 AM, Dan Goncharoff <thegonch at GMAIL.COM>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Voice recognition software?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> DanG
>>>>> 
>>>>> That was one of my (more generous) guesses.  Curiously, there’s a
>>>> reference later in the same paragraph to a different contest as a
>>>> “win-or-go-home game”.  Maybe the CBS website employs a half-time
>> editor.
>>>>> 
>>>>> LH
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 10:40 AM, Laurence Horn <
>> laurence.horn at yale.edu
>>>>> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Yes, it’s usually known as a “win-or-go-home” game, in which the
>> loser
>>>> is
>>>>>>> eliminated (from a tournament or further playoff contention).  But
>>>> then we
>>>>>>> read:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Dallas and Seattle play next week in a literal winner-go-home game.
>>>>>>> Whoever loses will be immediately eliminated.
>>>>>>> https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-playoff-picture-
>>>>>>> falcons-end-packers-playoff-hopes-nfc-race-taking-shape/
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thus, it’s really a loser-go-home game. Mainstream media purveying
>> fake
>>>>>>> news?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> LH
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