[Ads-l] "In my room"

Jim Parish jparish at SIUE.EDU
Thu Jul 13 20:35:33 EDT 2017


I don't have access to OED from home, but I'll be going onto campus 
tomorrow; I'll check then.

JP


On 7/13/2017 7:23 PM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
> So it was used everywhere.
>
> Have you tried OED?
>
> JL
>
> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 7:22 PM, Jim Parish <jparish at siue.edu> wrote:
>
>> Hm. The narrator of _Roderick Random_ is supposed to be a Scot, and Pepys
>> was a Londoner born and bred.
>>
>> Jim Parish
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7/13/2017 6:18 PM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
>>
>>> I'm familiar with this from 19th C. Irish English.
>>>
>>> "In the room of" = 'in place of; instead of'
>>>
>>> "He shot his true love in the room of a swan." (Old Ballad)
>>>
>>> (Not in a swan's room, n.b.)
>>>
>>> JL
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 7:07 PM, Jim Parish <jparish at siue.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes, yes, I'm quite familiar with the song....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7/13/2017 5:41 PM, Dan Goncharoff wrote:
>>>>
>>>> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bV-dWhYklqE
>>>>> On Jul 13, 2017 6:12 PM, "Jim Parish" <jparish at siue.edu> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> A while back, I was reading Pepys' Diary and was struck by the repeated
>>>>>
>>>>>> (metaphorical) use of "in my room", where, in my idiolect, "in my
>>>>>> place"
>>>>>> or
>>>>>> even "in my stead" would be more natural. Now, I'm reading _Roderick
>>>>>> Random_, written about eighty years later, and I have encountered the
>>>>>> phrase again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have never run into the phrase anywhere else, and certainly not in
>>>>>> any
>>>>>> contemporary source. So I'm curious: is this construction still in use
>>>>>> anywhere? Does anyone know when and where it was used?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jim Parish
>>>>>>
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