[Ads-l] Warning to Quotographers: Suspicious Hemingway byline in Playboy

ADSGarson O'Toole adsgarsonotoole at GMAIL.COM
Tue Mar 14 17:15:52 UTC 2017


Peter: Thanks for searching and pointing to the poem by Tennyson. It
is an interesting match. I think the verse may be referring to a
movement toward "higher things" via transcendence after death. There
is some ambiguity.

Garson


On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 9:18 PM, Peter Reitan <pjreitan at hotmail.com> wrote:
> A 1911 example (The Indianapolis News, December 12, 1911, page 6 (Newspapers.com)) credits the quote to an old "Hindoo proverb".  It also provides an alternate Tennyson quote that suggests a similar sentiment to the second part of the proverb:
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> "I held it truth, with him who sings
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> To one clear harp in divers tones,
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> That men may rise on stepping-stones
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> Of their dead selves to higher things."
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> From part I of Tennyson's In Memoriam A. H. H., the same poem in which he wrote, "tis better to have loved and lost, than never to have loved at all."
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> I received two requests to examine the following quotation which is
> often ascribed to Ernest Hemingway:
>
> There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true
> nobility is being superior to your former self.
>
> An instance appears in the April 1897 issue of "Ethical Addresses".
> This date was two years before the birth of Hemingway. Earlier
> citations would be welcome.
>
> An instance also appears in the January 1963 issue of Playboy magazine
> within an article titled "A Man=E2=80=99s Credo" with the byline Ernest
> Hemingway. However, English Professor Peter L. Hays, a Hemingway
> specialist, believes that the byline is false.
>
> More details here:
> http://quoteinvestigator.com/2017/03/11/superior/
>
> Garson
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