[Ads-l] Neither, nor, both

Joel Berson berson at ATT.NET
Mon Mar 27 09:53:20 EDT 2017


I suppose Venn diagrams prove that Larry is correct.  But isn't it quite easily understood?  And would be "correct" if it were:

"Contrary to what Gerry Adams said, he was neither only a terrorist nor only a freedom fighter - he was both"?
Joel
      From: Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at YALE.EDU>
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 Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 8:10 PM
 Subject: Re: [ADS-L] Neither, nor, both
   
> On Mar 26, 2017, at 6:01 PM, Jim Parish <jparish at SIUE.EDU> wrote:
> 
> Sighted in an online conversation, apparently from a northern Englander:
> 
> "Contrary to what Gerry Adams said, he was neither a terrorist nor a freedom fighter - he was both."
> 
> (The reference is to the late Martin McGuinness.)
> 

As someone who has claimed in print (in a 1985 paper and a subsequent book) that it’s possible to say “Maggie isn’t EITHER patriotic OR quixotic—she’s both” but that it’s *not* possible to say “Maggie is neither patriotic nor quixotic—she’s both”, a claim that would, I fear, extend from feisty iron ladies to members of the IRA/Sinn Fein.  All I can say is ouch.  And, I guess, thanks for the datum. 

LH

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