[Ads-l] Origin of Kibosh

ADSGarson O'Toole adsgarsonotoole at GMAIL.COM
Thu Oct 12 13:02:25 EDT 2017


I remember posting in support of Stephen's fascinating whip hypothesis
back in 2010. Glad to see that Gerald, Stephen, and Matthew Little
have written a comprehensive analysis. Congratulations.

Concerning the whip made from hippo hide : corbage, korbadj, kurbash,
corbash, and kibosh
http://listserv.linguistlist.org/pipermail/ads-l/2010-July/100544.html

Garson


On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 12:26 PM, Cohen, Gerald Leonard <gcohen at mst.edu> wrote:
> Ads-l was invaluable for the initial discussion on the origin of
> put the kibosh on. Thank you to all who participated.
> Might I now just clarify:
> 1) The etymology that Stephen, Matthew, and I develop and defend is
> kibosh < kurbash (the Mideastern whip made from hippopotamus
> or rhinoceros hide).  When the ads-l discussion on kibosh ended
> a few years ago, that etymology was still in doubt, but additional
> information to support it has since arisen and is included in the
> book.
> 2) Credit for proposing the kurbash etymology goes to Stephen
> Goranson and Matthew Little, who discovered it independently.
> Stephen was the first to state it publicly (ads-l) and was also
> the first to provide supporting evidence.
> 3) Over the past two years, Stephen, Matthew and I did quite a bit
> of additional research on the expression, and so the book very
> much represents a team effort.  The jury is still out, of course,
> but the three co-authors believe that the mystery of the expression's
> origin has been solved.
>
> Gerald Cohen
>
>
> Original message from Stephen Goranson, Thursday, October 12, 2017:
>
> Given that American Dialect Society List was home to some of the discussion  that in part led to it--say, e.g., George Thompson writing "...the common  people have their own knowledge. Men from the cockney district may have been in Egypt & the Near East as soldiers or seamen, and seen the whip carried and used"-- some may be interested to know of a new publication:
>
>
> Origin of Kibosh: Routledge Studies in Etymology
>
> by Gerald Cohen, Stephen Goranson, and Matthew Little.
>
> Routledge (Taylor & Francis). Hardback. Illustrated. ISBN 9781138628953
>
>
> Stephen
>
> http://people.duke.edu/~goranson/
>
>
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