[Ads-l] [Non-DoD Source] where to find sympathy

ADSGarson O'Toole adsgarsonotoole at GMAIL.COM
Thu Oct 19 17:13:36 EDT 2017


Excellent 1951 citation, Bill.

Ben gave an 1880 citation for the precursor quip in his article on the
Strong Language blog. Here is an instance of the precursor in 1868.

Date: August 13, 1868
Newspaper: Watchman & Reflector (Christian Watchman)
Newspaper Location: Boston, Massachusetts
Section: Literary and Miscellaneous Departments
Article: Life At Sea (Article for the Watchman and Reflector)
Author: Rev. J. D. Fulton
Quote Page 5, Column 3
Database: GenealogyBank

[Begin excerpt]
Since the first two or three days nearly all have been well, and never
was there a company more social, more kind or considerate. The old
negro preacher who said, "If you want to find sympathy look in the
dictionary for it," could never have been to sea. Here all sympathize
with the sufferers, and help to contribute to their relief and
comfort.
[End excerpt]

Garson


On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 2:37 PM, MULLINS, WILLIAM D (Bill) CIV USARMY
RDECOM AMRDEC (US) <william.d.mullins18.civ at mail.mil> wrote:
>> > On the Strong Language blog, I look into variations on a saying we
>> > discussed a couple of years ago: "If you're looking for sympathy, you can find it in the dictionary between 'shit' and 'syphilis.'"
>> >
>> > https://stronglang.wordpress.com/2017/10/19/where-can-you-find-sympath
>> > y/
>> >
>> > Linking back to our earlier discussion:
>> >
>> > http://listserv.linguistlist.org/pipermail/ads-l/2015-March/136422.htm
>> > l
>> >
>> > JL will be glad to know that I tracked down the example he remembered in the "World at War" miniseries.
>> >
>> > --bgz
>> >
>>
>> Bonus points to Ben for quoting "Major Payne".
>>
>> Also:
>> Syracuse NY _Post-Standard_ 22 May 1964 p 27 col a (bridge column, possibly syndicated?) "Now everybody knows that a bridge columnist
>> is the tenderest of God's creatures, but there is a limit to our sweetness. "You'll find sympathy in the dictionary between Stupid and Throw-
>> off," I informed my friend."
>>
>> _New Tops_ Feb 1970, p 39 col 2.
>> "You will find 'sympathy' in the dictionary between fertilizer and shoe polish."
>
> More:
>
> Little Rock _Arkansas Democrat_ 11 Mar 1951 p 6B col 3
> "There are a few wives, however, who also had a tough day and tell their tired mates if they want sympathy to look in the dictionary between symmetry and symphonic."
>
> _Fairview [KS] Enterprise_ 29 Jun 1961 p 3 col 4
> "He:  "Do you know where to find sympathy?"
> She:  "No, where?"
> He:  "In the dictionary between two words." "
>
> _La Cross [WI] Tribune_ 19 Jay 1967 p 8 col 4
> ""If you're looking for sympathy you can find it in the dictionary between shoot and suicide." -- Attributed to a U.S. Marine Corps Drill Instructor"
> [This is in a syndicated column by Carl Riblet Jr.  He uses this variant occasionally; this is the earliest one of his I can find.]
>
> _Waco [TX] Tribune-Herald_ 3 May 1974 p 4D col 4
> ""A taxpayer looking for sympathy can search in the dictionary between 'shoot' and 'suicide'." -- Paraphrase of an old saying of U.S. Marine drill instructors."
>
> _Boston Herald_ 2 Mar 1986 p 94 col 5
> "As for you ball players who are looking for sympathy it's in the dictionary between sex and syphilis."
>
> State College PA _Centre Daily Times_ 5 Apr 1994 p D1 col 1
> "It goes without saying that they're wealthy enough to buy and sell these players so if they're looking for sympathy, it's in the dictionary between symmetry and symphonic."
>
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