[Ads-l] apocryphal Twain

Peter Reitan pjreitan at HOTMAIL.COM
Thu Oct 26 20:13:12 EDT 2017


You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him . . .

. . . link.



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I did indicate in the citation for the sermon that the document was
available via archive.org, but I did not provide a link. Now, to help
fellow researchers I have updated the article to include a direct
link.




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Thanks for sharing this, Bill, and thanks to Andy and Dan for their
comments. I was happy to see that the researcher Mat Seybold did
mention my work on the topic, and he pointed to the pertinent webpage
on the Quote Investigator website.

https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fquoteinvestigator.com%2F2016%2F06%2F22%2Fwhy%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cbrowncg%40HOTMAIL.COM%7C4c95205500f344882a7108d51cce269d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636446594092262725&sdata=YPyp65wYtBbgkClBX22y595re7tkya3GWjGaTUWLkMY%3D&reserved=0

Seybold mentioned the key 1970 sermon, but he also stated that he had
difficulty accessing the sermon:

[Begin excerpt]
Unfortunately, I have been unable to consult this source myself,
though I have no reason to doubt Dr. O=E2=80=99Toole.
[End excerpt]

I did indicate in the citation for the sermon that the document was
available via archive.org, but I did not provide a link. Now, to help
fellow researchers I have updated the article to include a direct
link.

https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Farchive.org%2Fstream%2Fsermongiveyethem00camp%23page%2F8%2Fmode%2F2up&data=02%7C01%7Cbrowncg%40HOTMAIL.COM%7C4c95205500f344882a7108d51cce269d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636446594092418978&sdata=%2Fq5olRVMbYkHy8pbJdRz1GlNyupxqu3sb0cTdQ4Ficg%3D&reserved=0

Garson


On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 3:46 PM, Dan Goncharoff <thegonch at gmail.com> wrote:
> I immediately thought of the "two happiest days of a man=E2=80=99s life",=
 which
> Barry Popik has traced back to 1823.
>
> DanG
>
> On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 3:34 PM, Andy Bach <afbach at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Huh:
>>
>> The two most important days of your life are the day you were born and t=
he
>> day you find out why. =E2=80=93 The Apocryphal Twain
>>
>> The Occam=E2=80=99s Razor of Twain attribution is, as follows: If the ap=
horism in
>> question indicates a sentimental, nostalgic, or otherwise optimistic
>> attitude towards humanity, it probably didn=E2=80=99t come from Twain. A=
s Louis
>> Budd put is, Twain indulged a =E2=80=9Clifelong suspicion that the mass =
of mankind
>> is venal, doltish, feckless, and tyrannical, that the damn fools make up=
 a
>> majority anywhere.=E2=80=9D
>>
>> I've always taken the quote's "finding" to be about finding about how
>> babies are made. Never thought of a "self-help"/find your purpose sort o=
f
>> meaning.
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 11:45 AM, MULLINS, WILLIAM D (Bill) CIV USARMY
>> RDECOM AMRDEC (US) <william.d.mullins18.civ at mail.mil> wrote:
>>
>> > Possibly of interest.
>> >
>> > https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmarktwainstudies.com%2Fthe-apocryphal-twain-the-two-&data=02%7C01%7Cbrowncg%40HOTMAIL.COM%7C4c95205500f344882a7108d51cce269d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636446594092418978&sdata=fxYEdeQ9obpeJ6668ge2Ze6EWTqhLeS25ljhZRHuUr0%3D&reserved=0
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>> a
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>> Andy Bach,
>> afbach at gmail.com
>> 608 658-1890 cell
>> 608 261-5738 wk
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