[Ads-l] "L'=?UTF-8?Q?=C3=89tat_?=C'est Moi" Source

ADSGarson O'Toole adsgarsonotoole at GMAIL.COM
Tue Oct 31 19:40:12 EDT 2017


Good work, Peter. I suspect that "Mémoires Secrets . . ." is the same
book that Fred found in Gallica. Google Books also has the volume, but
I do not see any pointer to an earlier source within the text.

Year: 1791
Title: Mémoires secrets sur les règnes de Louis XIV et de Louis XV
Volume 1
Charles Duclos
Publisher: Buisson, Paris

https://books.google.com/books?id=TpT9cfQ-APgC&q=%22c%27est+moi%22#v=snippet&

[Begin excerpt]
Le préambule de l'édit du dixième est d'un
stile moins despotique que les édits précédens.
Ce prince, dans ses temps de prospérité,
choqué qu'un magistrat eût dit, le
Roi et l'Etat, l'interrompit, en disant,
l'Etat c'est moi.
[End excerpt]

Garson


On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 2:01 PM, Peter Reitan <pjreitan at hotmail.com> wrote:
> A German-language journal also published in April 1791<https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=hvd.hxjuey;view=1up;seq=645> attributes the anecdote to "Memoires secrets sur les regnes de Louis XIV. et Louis XV<https://archive.org/stream/mmoiressecretss06duclgoog#page/n195/mode/2up/search/c%27est>. par feu Mr. Duclos, de l'academie Francoise, historiographe de France. 1791. I Vol. 484 pages. II. 571 pages in Octavo."  That book, on archive.org, has poor OCR text, so I was unable to easily search and find it in the book to see whether it listed an earlier source.
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> Göttingische Anzeigen von gelehrten Sachen, Volume 1, 1791, Number 64, page 645<https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=hvd.hxjuey;view=1up;seq=649>.
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> If the "Memoires" were truly secret, it is possible that they first came to light in that publication.
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> The Yale Book of Quotations cites an 1834 secondary source for Louis XIV's =
> famous remark, "L'=C9tat c'est moi."  When I search Gallica I find the phra=
> se occurring in a 1791 book.  Can anyone help me to trace it to pre-1791 so=
> urces?
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> Fred Shapiro
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