[Ads-l] rude: noisy? frolicksome?

Laurence Horn laurence.horn at YALE.EDU
Sun Sep 24 21:45:29 EDT 2017


> On Sep 24, 2017, at 9:43 PM, Geoffrey Nathan <geoffnathan at WAYNE.EDU> wrote:
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> After I spent a six-month period in Edinburgh in the mid-nineties I discovered that (at least) younger speakers used 'rude' to mean 'obscene', risque. As in a picture of a barenaked lady (as we said in Toronto gradeschools in the sixties) could be described as 'a bit rude'. This sense isn't in the OED either, and it certainly doesn't have that meaning on this side of the pond (in my experience).
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> Geoff
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Rude as in nude?  Does put a nice tweak on the notion of a rude awakening.  

LH
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> Wilson Gray wrote:
>>> The senses of “rude” as applied to human behavior are, I think, all
>> negative.
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>> Except in BE slang , of course, wherein, like “hard,” It’s a synonym of
>> “bad.” “Rude”and “hard”In the sense of “bad” go so far back that I don’t
>> know f’ sho’ where I first heard them. The time-frame is between 1945 and
>> 1950, though.
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> What does it mean in the title of Desmond Dekker's "Rude Boy Train"? (I 
> love the sound of his voice, but I very rarely understand what he's saying.)
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> Jim Parish
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