[Ads-l] Cooking with the Kochs

Peter Reitan pjreitan at HOTMAIL.COM
Wed Sep 27 14:45:58 EDT 2017


Coincidentally, I also know people named Kuntz - rhymes with boonce.

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> On Sep 27, 2017, at 12:50 PM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
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> Wikipedia:
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> =E2=80=9CThe Koch family (/=CB=88ko=CA=8Ak/ =
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA/English>
> KOKE =
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Pronunciation_respelling_key>) =
=E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D
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> This pronunciation, [koUk], is the one that I use for this name,
> irregardless of any contra-indicative evidence: Mayor Coke and not =
Mayor
> Kotch. I=E2=80=99ve never so much as seen in person anyone even =
rumored to bear
> this name. So, does anyone else really care? In the words of the =
living
> legend, Noam Chomsky, =E2=80=9CI think not.=E2=80=9D
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> OTOH, according to the first article respecting the Koch brothers that =
I
> read in the NYT, the relevant Koch family itself prefers the =
pronunciation,
> =E2=80=9CCook.=E2=80=9D By complete coincidence, there were, in =
post-war Saint Louis, when
> white folk still played ball, a couple of brothers - in the genetic =
sense -
> Bob and Jerry, who were locally-famous as b-ballaz. They even attained =
some
> level of all-America status. Their surname was also =E2=80=9CKoch,=E2=80=
=9D pronounced
> KOKE, as Wikipedia states. However, by further complete coincidence,
> _these_ brothers Koch also said, according to the St. Louis =
Post-Dispatch,
> that their surname was, in fact, properly pronounced =E2=80=9CCook.=E2=80=
=9D
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Speaking of professional athletes so endowed (onomastically speaking), =
the late '70s and early =E2=80=9880s brought us both Dick Pole, a =
pitcher for the Red Sox, and the unfortunately yclept Rusty Kuntz, an =
outfielder for various American League teams. The latter, =
unsurprisingly, pronounced his name not to rhyme with =E2=80=9Cbunts=E2=80=
=9D but rather with=E2=80=A6=E2=80=9Dboonce=E2=80=9D.

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