[Ads-l] Facebookery: positive _anymore_

Wilson Gray hwgray at GMAIL.COM
Sat Aug 4 15:54:20 EDT 2018


> Thanks!

It was my honor.

On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 2:07 PM Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu> wrote:

> I’d say it’s viewed pretty negatively.  Thanks!
>
>
> > On Aug 4, 2018, at 12:12 AM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> >
> >> Do you happen to know if the full context indicates that “it”, whatever
> > it was, is being          > viewed negatively?
> >
> > I don't often have the context. But, when I do, it's the full one😜:
> >
> > This was an exceedingly unfortunate episode. In March, 2017, the young
> man
> > whose story is described was experiencing a mental crisis. His family
> made
> > the mistake of calling the police to help control him. When police
> arrived,
> > the officers tased him. But when he got up and charged them, this time
> they
> > fired off 16 rounds, hitting him 14 times. It seems to be a fairly common
> > occurrence _anymore_, families calling the police for help with their
> > loved ones,
> > and then seeing their family members gunned down right in front of their
> > eyes.
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 9:37 PM Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>
> wrote:
> >
> >>> On Aug 3, 2018, at 9:13 PM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> "It seems to be a fairly common occurrence _anymore_.”
> >>
> >> Yup, that one is definitely a positive “anymore” (with “common”, as
> >> opposed to "rare”).  The example is interesting for the geography; South
> >> Florida is by no means in the heart of positive “anymore” country,
> although
> >> the construction has been spreading somewhat.    Do you happen to know
> if
> >> the full context indicates that “it”, whatever it was, is being viewed
> >> negatively?  That would favor the “anymore" for many speakers.  So, for
> >> example, “Wild Alaskan salmon is really expensive anymore” might be more
> >> likely than “Wild Alaskan salmon is really popular anymore”.  (I assume
> >> both sentences are fine for all speakers with “nowadays” in place of
> >> “anymore” and with the same intended meaning.)
> >>>
> >>> Writer is from and still lives in South Florida, where he's a lawyer.
> >>>
> >>> BTW, FWIW, here in NEPA, the same people who use positive also use
> >>> negative. I'd kinda wondered about that.
> >>
> >> As far as I know, speakers who accept/use positive “anymore” also use it
> >> in negative contexts.
> >>
> >> LH
> >>>
> >>> "That's not going to happen, anymore!"
> >>> --
> >>> -Wilson
> >>> -----
> >>> All say, "How hard it is that we have to die!"---a strange complaint to
> >>> come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
> >>> -Mark Twain
> >>>
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> >
> >
> > --
> > -Wilson
> > -----
> > All say, "How hard it is that we have to die!"---a strange complaint to
> > come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
> > -Mark Twain
> >
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-- 
-Wilson
-----
All say, "How hard it is that we have to die!"---a strange complaint to
come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
-Mark Twain

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