[Ads-l] old, not bold

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Sun Dec 2 14:10:16 UTC 2018


My hat is off to Barry, as it often is, and his access to the Boston Herald.

The newspaper databases I've seen show the quote (in the "pilot" form)
appearing in papers frequently after the end of WWII.

JL

On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 5:22 AM ADSGarson O'Toole <adsgarsonotoole at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Interesting saying, JL.
>
> [Begin excerpt from Barry Popik's website]
> "There are old pilots and there are bold pilots, but there are no old,
> bold pilots” is an old aviation adage. Harry Copland (1896-1976), who
> first flew in an airplane in 1911, made the saying famous. The Boston
> (MA) Herald briefly profiled Copland on June 10, 1934:
>
> “Given to sage remarks, Copland’s statement, ‘There are old pilots and
> there are bold pilots, but there are no old, bold pilots,’ has become
> famous throughout the land.”
> [End excerpt from Barry Popik's website]
>
>
> https://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/there_are_old_pilots_and_bold_pilots_but_there_are_no_old_bold_pilots/
> On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 8:32 PM Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > According to the current film _A Private War_, “There are old
> journalists,
> > and there are bold journalists, but there are no old, bold journalists.”
> >
> > 1943 Kendall Banning _Our Army Today_ (N.Y.: Funk & Wagnalls) 152: "There
> > are old pilots, and there are bold pilots, but there are no old, bold
> > pilots."
>
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