[Ads-l] NYTimes: "A _fathom_ of lies"

Marc Sacks msacksg at GMAIL.COM
Sat Dec 8 15:43:19 UTC 2018


"Full fathom lies my father five"?

On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 9:30 AM paul johnson <paulzjoh at mtnhome.com> wrote:

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> I think he was reaching for phantasmagorical.
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> On 12/8/2018 1:42 AM, ADSGarson O'Toole wrote:
> > Dan Goncharoff wrote:
> >> Perhaps the kid invented a needed word that doesn't exist...
> > I’ve heard the express “fathomless lies” where “fathomless” means
> > “unable to be measured or understood; extremely deep.” Conceivable the
> > student heard “fathomless lies” and constructed “fathom of lies”.
> >
> > Here is one sample match when I Google “fathomless lies”:
> > Date: September 9, 1886
> > Periodical: Boston Medical and Surgical Journal
> >
> > [Begin excerpt]
> > The papers that hoist before the public the figures of their
> > circulation—apt to be fathomless lies— . .  .
> > [End excerpt]
> >
> > Garson
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 9:04 PM Dan Goncharoff <thegonch at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> Perhaps the kid invented a needed word that doesn't exist...
> >>
> >> On Fri, Dec 7, 2018, 1:57 PM Andy Bach <afbach at gmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >>> *A Times investigation* found that a Louisiana school previously
> celebrated
> >>> for getting underprivileged black students into top colleges falsified
> >>> transcripts, invented student accomplishments and exploited the worst
> >>> stereotypes of black America
> >>> <
> >>>
> http://p.nytimes.com/email/re?location=pMJKdIFVI6pghfX2HXfSzxRpdoyDWYNWuWr9t/FYfi7Pbcgy+RdIKQMy92vRGnAsnc59Sb4RPqeK5m3DMVZtkH8T/iZV7tK2yG31j3AJwpDFcS8Tr/jnxcDl0ngi4EHXhKw/L7u26I+xN1Z8juZ13Upti3q2ujunOnqxZl3YOy0=&campaign_id=57&instance_id=5823&segment_id=8223&user_id=a908a479818f024d9e05edf3ee8eded0&regi_id=5433534720181130
> >>>> .
> >>>
> >>> “I was just a small piece in a whole fathom of lies,” one former
> student
> >>> said.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/30/us/tm-landry-college-prep-black-students.html?emc=edit_ne_20181130&nl=evening-briefing&nlid=5433534720181130&te=1
> >>>
> >>> "Fabric of lies" maybe?
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