[Ads-l] new meaning for "secret"?

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Thu Feb 8 22:34:51 UTC 2018


I've seen the movie twice.

The "interspecies love story" (such as it is) is only barely relevant to
the actual "real" story.

JL

On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Margaret Winters <mewinters at wayne.edu>
wrote:

> I agree with Dan - though the line between the two readings is a bit
> fuzzy.  I don't think I've heard a clear example of really meaning 'notably
> also' and not 'more important and not as obvious'.
>
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> MARGARET E WINTERS
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>
> I read this differently.
>
> Q: What is this story about?
> A: the Holocaust
> Q: But what is it really about?
> A: It is really an interspecies love story between Jessica [Chastain]
> and the animals.
>
> I can't read "really" above to mean "notably also", more like "more
> important, but not so obvious".
>
> On Feb 8, 2018 11:08 AM, "Jonathan Lighter" <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> How about the new meaning of "really," i.e., "notably also."
>
> Director Niki Caro says that _The Zookeeper's Wife_, which is about the
> Holocaust, is "really an interspecies love story between Jessica [Chastain]
> and the animals."
>
> https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/zookeepers-wife-
> animal-whisperer-jessica-chastain-charmed-real-elephant-201825640.html
>
> JL
>
> On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 11:00 AM, Ben Zimmer <bgzimmer at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 10:06 AM, James A. Landau <
> JJJRLandau at netscape.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > The Andrew Janz for Congress campaign (Fresno, California) sent out an
> > > email that reads:
> > >
> > > "ADD YOUR NAME to the secret memo we’re delivering straight to Nunes’s
> > > Washington D.C. office"
> > >
> > > If it's being publicly delivered to Congressman Nunes's office, I can't
> > > see how it can be "secret".
> > >
> > > The email is not specific but suggests the memo reads "YOU'RE FIRED"
> > >
> >
> > They're clearly playing off the relentlessly hyped "secret memo" that
> Nunes
> > himself drafted, which was then declassified. I think this is just a way
> to
> > tell Nunes, "I got a 'secret memo' for you right here, buddy."
> >
> > --bgz
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