[Ads-l] Request details of citation in Boston Daily Journal in 1865

Fri Feb 16 10:55:47 UTC 2018

Thanks for your response with the E.K. proposal. Do reporters for a newspaper typically contribute in the form of a letter to the editor?

Stephen Goranson

http://people.duke.edu/~goranson/

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Thanks for your response Stephen. The identity of E.K. is an
intriguing topic worthy of investigation, and I appreciate your
thoughts on the topic. Donna Halper (in an off-list message) indicated
that she believes: "E.K. is in fact Edward King, who was a young
correspondent (only 17) for the Journal, as well as for the
Springfield Republican.  He covered a wide range of stories for the
Journal and was widely quoted in other newspapers. In the late 1860s,
he spent several years overseas in Paris and other cities in Europe as
the Journal's Foreign Correspondent before coming back to the States."

I decided not to propose candidate names for "E.K." within the QI
article at this time.

The article acknowledgement has changed. It was updated with thanks to
Donna Halper who spotted an inaccuracy in one of the citations. I also
decided to break the large block of text into multiple paragraphs.

Garson

On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 4:44 AM, Stephen Goranson <...> wrote:
> Thanks.
>
>  In case some future researcher happens upon this, let me note that I think it likely that the letter writer "E.K." was James R. Gilmore whose pen name was Edmund Kirke. He was born in Boston and had conversations with Lincoln before and after he was sent by Lincoln to Richmond in July 1864 with a conditional settlement offer to Jefferson Davis. Then he reported on the mission (with Lincoln editing) in The Atlantic.
>
> Stephen Goranson
>
> Origin of Kibosh: Routledge Studies in Etymology
>
> Bty, the acknowledgement section in the email differs from that in the blog.
>
>
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> From: American Dialect Society <...> on behalf of ADSGarson O'Toole <...>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 10:06 PM
> To: ...
> Subject: Re: [ADS-L] Request details of citation in Boston Daily Journal in 1865
>
> Back in August 2017 I requested aid to access a Boston newspaper
> citation in 1865 and received some helpful responses. Ultimately, I
> made a research request to the staff of the Boston Public Library, and
> they performed admirably. Here is a link to the Quote Investigator
> article followed by a copy of the lengthy acknowledgment.
>
> Let Them Know the Truth, and the Country Is Safe
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__quoteinvestigator.com_2018_02_14_truth-2Dsafe_&d=DwIFaQ&c=imBPVzF25OnBgGmVOlcsiEgHoG1i6YHLR0Sj_gZ4adc&r=uUVa-8oDL2EzfbuMuowoUadHHcJ7pjul6iFkS5Pd--8&m=IRHBRNJXTxulQZtPHmQF3BNFzfhHseGeqJcH4W47p8A&s=ybgnDXwpgCzrWFO5GGkSDd_LqaCxgg7sqY8Rw7UA578&e=
>
> [Begin acknowledgment]
> Great thanks to Terry Teachout of “The Wall Street Journal” whose
> inquiry led QI to formulate this question and perform this
> exploration.
>
> Special thanks to the research staff at the Boston Public Library
> (BPL) who sent to QI scans for the "Boston Morning Journal" citation
> dated April 17, 1865. When QI first contacted BPL he had a citation
> containing an acknowledgement using the ambiguous designation "Boston
> Journal", and BPL determined that the correct newspaper was the
> "Boston Morning Journal".
>
> Additional thanks to twitter discussants Yoni Appelbaum, Ben Domenech,
> and Seth Gitell. After QI tweeted an image of a newspaper clipping
> from April 21, 1865, Appelbaum tweeted an image of a crucial newspaper
> clipping from April 17, 1865. Appelbaum also identified the
> interesting James E. Murdoch citation.
>
> Further thanks for the efforts of mailing list participants Stephen
> Goranson, Jonathan Lighter, George Thompson, and Dennis Lien.
>
> Great thanks to Barry Popik for his pioneering research. Popik's
> article included an important citation dated April 29, 1865 that
> presented the earliest phrasing of the quotation.
> [End acknowledgment]
>
> Garson
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 10:24 AM, ADSGarson O'Toole
> <...> wrote:
>> Back in July, I received a request from a Wall Street Journal writer
>> via twitter to explore a quotation attributed to Abraham Lincoln. The
>> quotation is popular, e.g., CNN tweeted it on July 4, and the
>> statement is engraved on the wall at the Newseum. Yet, the quotation
>> is slightly inaccurate.
>>
>> [Begin excerpt]
>> Let the people know the facts and the country will be safe.
>> [End excerpt]
>>
>> Barry Popik found a key citation dated April 29, 1865. I pushed the
>> date back to April 21, 1865. Both of these citations pointed to an
>> origin in the Boston Journal.
>>
>> Historian Yoni Appelbaum then located the earliest citation in Boston
>> Daily Journal on April 17, 1865, and he tweeted an image.
>>
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.com_YAppelbaum_status_882564306239451137&d=DwIFaQ&c=imBPVzF25OnBgGmVOlcsiEgHoG1i6YHLR0Sj_gZ4adc&r=uUVa-8oDL2EzfbuMuowoUadHHcJ7pjul6iFkS5Pd--8&m=IRHBRNJXTxulQZtPHmQF3BNFzfhHseGeqJcH4W47p8A&s=JVzppmQj0aMTx-ZIWOGOvBcyWE_Udo1OEVhuTjPHLck&e=
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“@QuoteResearch @terryteachout @bdomenech Oh, that’s very well done. The original ran in the Boston Daily Journal, April 17, signed “E.K."”

>>
>> [Begin excerpt]
>> "I have faith in the people. They will not consent to disunion. The
>> danger is, that they are misled. Let them know the truth and the
>> country is safe."
>> [End except]
>>
>> What database contains the page images for in the Boston Daily Journal
>> citation? Alternatively, if someone could send me a PDF or jpg of the
>> page containing the quotation I would be most grateful. Thanks.
>>
>> Garson
>
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