[Ads-l] What is a NOVEL?

Peter Reitan pjreitan at HOTMAIL.COM
Tue Jul 10 13:19:05 EDT 2018


In a related vein, I know someone who uses "fiction" narrowly, to refer only to things like science fiction and fantasy; they consider realistic, believable fiction (in the conventional sense) to be non-fiction.

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The Bible? Yes, that's a novel too.

The OED? They don't know that there is such a thing as a dictionary. Only
Google.


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How about the Bible?  Or the OED?  (Maybe the compact edition of the latter
just to be on the safe side.)

> On Jul 9, 2018, at 3:04 PM, David Wilton <dave at WILTON.NET> wrote:
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> Based on how my students use the word, "novel" is synonymous with "book."
Fiction or non-fiction doesn't matter.
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> I've yet to see them use the word to be synonymous with a short poem, but
some do call "Beowulf" a "novel."
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> Hey, Mark, I warned about just this development years ago, with many
gratuitous updates!
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> And it ain't restricted to fiction!
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> JL
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> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 8:26 AM Mark Mandel <mark.a.mandel at gmail.com>
wrote:
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>> I've read somewhere that the use of "novel" is spreading out, like
>> soup spilled on a tablecloth, to include any kind of fiction. Bleah!
>>
>> Mark Mandel
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>> On Jul 9, 2018 3:28 AM, "Charles C Doyle" <cdoyle at uga.edu> wrote:
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>> A website called "shortlist.com" lists among "the 30 greatest war
>> novels of all time" Shakespeare's _Henry VI_ (the trilogy,
>> apparently).
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