[Ads-l] No = 'yes; truly'

Mon Mar 5 19:21:58 UTC 2018

This was a crowd of paying POTUS supporters.

They were laughing *with* him, if you know what I mean.

JL

On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 2:14 PM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>
wrote:

> > On Mar 5, 2018, at 1:49 PM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM>
> wrote:
> >
> > The POTUS:   Don't forget China's great and Xi is a great gentleman. He's
> > now president for life. President for life.
> >
> > Crowd: [Laughter, cheers, and applause.]
> >
> > The POTUS: No, he's great!
> >
> > JL
>
> Would the “No” have occurred if the laughter hadn’t?  (And if there hadn’t
> also been raised eyebrows, as there probably were?)
>
>
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 2:04 PM, ADSGarson O'Toole <
> adsgarsonotoole at gmail.com
> >> wrote:
> >
> >> One of the characters in the mongoose anecdote says:
> >> "No, that's true,"
> >>
> >> JL has mentioned this construct in recent days, but in this case the
> >> character is responding to a remark containing negation.
> >>
> >> [Begin excerpt]
> >> "But they aren't real snakes, you know!" exclaimed the fat man,
> >> opening his mouth until the other could see his cork-soles.
> >>
> >> "No, that's true," said the quiet man, getting up and putting the box
> >> under his coat: "but then this isn't a real mongoose, you see!" And he
> >> evaporated out of the door, while the fat man stared thoughtfully out
> >> of the window at the flickering gas-lamps.
> >> [End excerpt]
> >>
> >> Garson
> >>
> >> On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 7:25 PM, Jonathan Lighter
> >> <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Guests on MSNBC this eve.:
> >>>
> >>> "No, I fully agree."
> >>>
> >>> "No, they absolutely should."
> >>>
> >>> JL
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Dec 26, 2017 at 2:15 PM, Jonathan Lighter <
> >> wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> CHICAGO WOMAN, age ca 50:  "So will Bob be at the dinner?"
> >>>>
> >>>> BOULDER WOMAN, age 69: "No, he'll be there."
> >>>>
> >>>> JL
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 9:41 AM, Jonathan Lighter <
> >> wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Nada Bakos, former CIA analyst, on CNN:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Right. Exactly. [Briefly discusses Trump and Putin.] So no, I
> totally
> >>>>> agree."
> >>>>>
> >>>>> JL
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 9:45 AM, Dan Goncharoff <thegonch at gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Literally no.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I see this as a defensive. Everybody's a skeptic, so many speakers
> >>>>>> interpret any response short of aggressive head-nodding as
> disbelief.
> >> The
> >>>>>> result, in the face of presumed or expected disbelief, is an
> affirming
> >>>>>> "no", meaning "no, I am serious, I mean this".
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I recognize this produces many instances of speakers saying "no" to
> >>>>>> speakers that are not contradictory. Nor do I like it. But I think I
> >>>>>> understand it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Nov 8, 2017 9:28 AM, "Jonathan Lighter" <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> POPPY HARLOW, CNN:  I assume that you're happy to see a little bit
> >> of
> >>>>>> toned
> >>>>>>> down rhetoric.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> JOHN KIRBY (former rear admiral, USN): I am, Poppy. No. No. I was.
> >> You
> >>>>>>> know, I think that speech was adequate to the task.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Anybody seriously think he was contrasting "is" and "was"?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> JL
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 5:23 PM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Am still confident that this weirdness is a reduction of "yeah,
> >>>>>> no."
> >>>>>>>> Which
> >>>>>>>>> means, essentially, "yeah" in prefacing a reply to a previous
> >>>>>> speaker.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Yayuh, naw. I concur
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 8:36 AM, Jonathan Lighter <
> >>>>>>> wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Keep chewing:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> VICTOR BLACKWELL: These committees are led by Republicans in
> >> both
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>> House
> >>>>>>>>> and in the Senate. But Rene' was gonna come in with something.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> RENE' MARSH: No, what I was gonna say is, besides all of this, I
> >>>>>> mean,
> >>>>>>>> you
> >>>>>>>>> mentioned, y' know, the White House's strategy of coming after
> >>>>>> Hillary
> >>>>>>>>> Clinton as... in the lead-up to all we learned about yesterday.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> CNN, 8:11 am EST.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Am still confident that this weirdness is a reduction of "yeah,
> >>>>>> no."
> >>>>>>>> Which
> >>>>>>>>> means, essentially, "yeah" in prefacing a reply to a previous
> >>>>>> speaker.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> JL
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 9:23 PM, W Brewer <brewerwa at gmail.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> <Yes--no, ...>, maybe <So, ...>. (WB latest stray conspiracy
> >>>>>>> theories):
> >>>>>>>>>> 1  Among the social media emerge solutions to the folkish need
> >>>>>> for an
> >>>>>>>>>> <<at-times-pseudo-contrastive-speaker-switching-sentence-
> >>>>>>>>>> initial-particle>>.
> >>>>>>>>>> 2  Cf. NHG <nun ja!> 'that's true enough, granted'. Probably
> >>>>>> related
> >>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>> Swedish [NAH-yah!] (Oh, come on, get real!).
> >>>>>>>>>> 3  Cf. Hittite <nu> 'satzeinleitende Partikel' (Pok.770 s.v.
> >>>>>> *nu(:)
> >>>>>>>>> 'now').
> >>>>>>>>>> (Can this be mere coincidence?)
> >>>>>>>>>> 4  "I like coffee, I like tea, I like the girls and the girls
> >>>>>> like
> >>>>>>> me:
> >>>>>>>>> Yes,
> >>>>>>>>>> no, maybe so..." (Harvey Weinstein trips up.)
> >>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>
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> >> the
> >>>>>>>> truth."
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> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>> -Wilson
> >>>>>>>> -----
> >>>>>>>> All say, "How hard it is that we have to die!"---a strange
> >> complaint
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>> come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
> >>>>>>>> -Mark Twain
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> >>>>>> truth."
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> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> "If the truth is half as bad as I think it is, you can't handle the
> >>>>> truth."
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> "If the truth is half as bad as I think it is, you can't handle the
> >> truth."
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> "If the truth is half as bad as I think it is, you can't handle the
> >> truth."
> >>>
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> >
> >
> > --
> > "If the truth is half as bad as I think it is, you can't handle the
> truth."
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