[Ads-l] Fwd: Re: antedating of ragtime

Amy West medievalist at W-STS.COM
Thu Nov 8 11:09:26 EST 2018


I forwarded some of the "ragtime" discussion to a dance historian I know.

She said:


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Subject: 	Re: antedating of ragtime
Date: 	Thu, 8 Nov 2018 10:36:51 -0500
From: 	Barbara Menard Pugliese <barbara at vintagedancers.org>
To: 	medievalist at w-sts.com
CC: 	Barbara <barbara at vintagedancers.org>



That's really interesting. I think there is a whole pile of nuance for 
someone to unpack. For instance, the New Years Eve dance where you have 
to go in rags seems to echo the calico balls that were popular at the 
same time.

Thanks!

Barbara


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>>>     It is written in a peculiar measure, called "rag" time, and he not only
>     couldn't write the music to such a melody, but never heard of the tempo
>     before.
>>     I haven't seen any early examples of "ragtime" or "rag time" - although
>     I've seen quite a few from later in 1896.
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>>     I have looked at "rag music", "rag dance" and other music-related
>     "rags." "Rag dance" and music may be derived from an English translation
>     of a Southern/French-influenced New Years Eve tradition of a masquerade
>     that featured a > French-language song about rag dancing, described from as
>     early as the early-1870s. A specific style of music associated with rag
>     dances appears to have emerged by the early-1890s.
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