[Ads-l] RES: Bugs Bunny coins "Nimrod"?

David Daniel dad at COARSECOURSES.COM
Thu Oct 11 18:35:46 UTC 2018


So I tried to check out the video on YouTube at the link Wilson sent and it
says "Video Unavailable." Did that happen like in the last hour or two? I
ask as it seems that some of you were able to watch it.
DAD



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Poster:       Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Bugs Bunny coins "Nimrod"?
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Wikipedia notes that this 1941 cartoon was suppressed as racist "in 1968."
(Elmer Fudd had first appeared with that name in 1940).

FWIW, I began watching Bugs Bunny cartoons on Channel 5 in NYC in 1957 or
'58, and this particular one was never shown - then or later. This is the
first time I've seen it.

JL

On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 1:20 PM Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:

> > Elmer Fudd
>
> He used to be a colored fellow, before he came to his senses.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DP0z7oZ0jzQs
> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 12:11 PM Andy Bach <afbach at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > According to "Now You Know" and WikiP, Chuck Jones et alia are the actu=
al
> > coiners of the idiot version:
> > " The word =E2=80=9Cnimrod=E2=80=9D is commonly used to describe someon=
e who is acting
> like
> > a doofus, but the word originally meant the opposite. =E2=80=9CNimrod=
=E2=80=9D originally
> > comes from the name of a biblical Egyptian king who was widely regarded
> as
> > a skilled hunter. But, according to Wikipedia
> > <
> https://nowiknow.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=3D2889002ad89d45ca21f5=
0ba46&id=3Daefcd20163&e=3D33dbfa3b8f
> >,
> > Bugs Bunny (yes, the iconic cartoon character) used the term
> sarcastically
> > in reference to hapless hunter Elmer Fudd. Viewers didn=E2=80=99t pick =
up the
> > sarcasm and the meaning of the term reversed. "
> >
> > WikiP cites "Garner's Modern American Usage":
> >
> https://books.google.com/books?id=3DmVcJqKs1isUC&pg=3DPR53#v=3Donepage&q&=
f=3Dfalse
> >
> > Though they also cite the "Dictionary of Jewish Usage"
> >
> https://books.google.com/books?id=3DNk_RFL9LYg0C&pg=3DPA126#v=3Donepage&q=
&f=3Dfalse
> >
> > which says it was in use as meaning "maroon" (said to be Bugs'
> > pronunciation of "moron", not referring to Maroons, runaway slaves (whi=
ch
> > the Straight Dope differs:
> > https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/archive/index.php/t-25808.html
> > )) is noted as far back as the 1930s
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > a
> >
> > Andy Bach,
> > afbach at gmail.com
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