[Ads-l] RES: RES: Bugs Bunny coins "Nimrod"?

David Daniel dad at COARSECOURSES.COM
Thu Oct 11 19:08:56 UTC 2018


I found another link on YouTube that works (well, was working 2 minutes
ago), if this is the same cartoon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54M_fk5_0hs 
DAD



Curiouser and curiouser.  I watched it (well, as much as I could take) =
after Wilson=E2=80=99s message first posted (not a middle!), but now =
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> sender:       American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
> Poster:       Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM>
> Subject:      Re: Bugs Bunny coins "Nimrod"?
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> Wikipedia notes that this 1941 cartoon was suppressed as racist "in =
1968."
> (Elmer Fudd had first appeared with that name in 1940).
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> FWIW, I began watching Bugs Bunny cartoons on Channel 5 in NYC in 1957 =
or
> '58, and this particular one was never shown - then or later. This is =
the
> first time I've seen it.
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> JL
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> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 1:20 PM Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> Elmer Fudd
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>> He used to be a colored fellow, before he came to his senses.
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>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D3DP0z7oZ0jzQs
>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 12:11 PM Andy Bach <afbach at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> According to "Now You Know" and WikiP, Chuck Jones et alia are the =
actu=3D
> al
>>> coiners of the idiot version:
>>> " The word =3DE2=3D80=3D9Cnimrod=3DE2=3D80=3D9D is commonly used to =
describe someon=3D
> e who is acting
>> like
>>> a doofus, but the word originally meant the opposite. =
=3DE2=3D80=3D9CNimrod=3D
> =3DE2=3D80=3D9D originally
>>> comes from the name of a biblical Egyptian king who was widely =
regarded
>> as
>>> a skilled hunter. But, according to Wikipedia
>>> <
>> =
https://nowiknow.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=3D3D2889002ad89d45ca21f=
5=3D
> 0ba46&id=3D3Daefcd20163&e=3D3D33dbfa3b8f
>>> ,
>>> Bugs Bunny (yes, the iconic cartoon character) used the term
>> sarcastically
>>> in reference to hapless hunter Elmer Fudd. Viewers didn=3DE2=3D80=3D99=
t pick =3D
> up the
>>> sarcasm and the meaning of the term reversed. "
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>>> WikiP cites "Garner's Modern American Usage":
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https://books.google.com/books?id=3D3DmVcJqKs1isUC&pg=3D3DPR53#v=3D3Donepa=
ge&q&=3D
> f=3D3Dfalse
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>>> Though they also cite the "Dictionary of Jewish Usage"
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https://books.google.com/books?id=3D3DNk_RFL9LYg0C&pg=3D3DPA126#v=3D3Donep=
age&q=3D
> &f=3D3Dfalse
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>>> which says it was in use as meaning "maroon" (said to be Bugs'
>>> pronunciation of "moron", not referring to Maroons, runaway slaves =
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>>> the Straight Dope differs:
>>> https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/archive/index.php/t-25808.html
>>> )) is noted as far back as the 1930s
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>>> Andy Bach,
>>> afbach at gmail.com
>>> 608 658-1890 cell
>>> 608 261-5738 wk
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