[Ads-l] [EEMSG-SPAM: Suspect][Non-DoD Source] pooched (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Laurence Horn]

Great research!  Too bad the Yale Alumni Magazine would be an unlikely candidate to consider this news fit to print, even if they’re happy to publish Fred’s findings. 

> On Oct 23, 2018, at 5:10 PM, Ben Zimmer <bgzimmer at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> 
> Yes, it was definitely modeled on "fuck the dog," which was already in use.
> See my Slate piece.
> 
> https://slate.com/human-interest/2014/01/screw-the-pooch-etymology-of-the-idiom-dates-back-to-nasa-and-the-military.html
> 
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> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 5:05 PM Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>
> wrote:
> 
>> Is there any reasonable speculation on the origin of the expression?  Was
>> (metaphorical) “fuck the dog” already in widespread use before “screw the
>> pooch” arose?  Is it clear what prompted it?  It strikes me as being
>> analogous in some ways to “jump the shark”, but that one has a
>> straightforward origin story.  Presumably there’s no TV episode we can
>> blame for this one.
>> 
>> LH
>> 
>>> On Oct 23, 2018, at 3:46 PM, MULLINS, WILLIAM D (Bill) CIV USARMY RDECOM
>> AMRDEC (US) <william.d.mullins18.civ at MAIL.MIL> wrote:
>>> 
>>> CLASSIFICATION: UNCLASSIFIED
>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> "Screwed."
>>>> 
>>>> Nicolle Wallace on _Deadline: White House_ yesterday:
>>>> 
>>>> "The second member of the Dowd-Cobb team [is] basically acknowledging
>> that, on obstruction, the President's pooched."
>>>> 
>>>> < screw the pooch (popularized by _The Right Stuff_) < fuck the dog
>>>> 
>>>> JL
>>> 
>>> Don't know the dating that HDAS has on this, but I looked the phrase up
>> in HathiTrust and found it:
>>> 
>>> [The Peace Corps} _The Peace Corps Reader_ Washington DC: Office of
>> Public Affairs, Peace Corps, 1969. p.  88.
>>> 
>>> "Oh, man, did I ever screw the pooch on this one -- they can't write!"
>>> 
>>> From the cover design, it almost looks to be for a juvenile audience.
>>> 
>>> 
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