[Ads-l] Fwd: "my first ask"

Dan Goncharoff thegonch at GMAIL.COM
Fri Jan 4 22:43:10 EST 2019


Meant to send this to the list:

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Dan Goncharoff <thegonch at gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Jan 4, 2019, 10:40 PM
Subject: Re: "my first ask"
To: Peter Reitan <pjreitan at hotmail.com>


You will find the phrase "big ask" in American books about fundraising
earlier than 2006.

On Fri, Jan 4, 2019, 8:02 PM Peter Reitan <pjreitan at hotmail.com wrote:

> A quick search of the text string "that's a big ask" on newspapers.com
> shows hits as early as 1988.  But every single hit from 1988 through
> 2006 is either from an Australian newspaper, or quotes a native
> Australian, typically athletes.  Several examples of high-profile
> Australian tennis players and golfers being quoted in US newspapers -
> perhaps that's how it seeped into the language here.  The earliest
> non-Canadian result was from Canada in 2006.  The earliest US result
> that is apparently not from a native Australian speaker is only from
> 2010.
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Jonathan Lighter" <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
> To: ADS-L at listserv.uga.edu
> Sent: 1/4/2019 4:11:03 PM
> Subject: Re: "my first ask"
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> >Sender:       American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
> >Poster:       Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM>
> >Subject:      Re: "my first ask"
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> >
> >I've been hearing "ask," n., frequently from TV newspersons for maybe a
> >year, maybe more. They say it instead of "request," which is boring.
> >
> >JL
> >
> >On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 4:26 PM Margaret Winters <mewinters at wayne.edu>
> wrote:
> >
> >>  Yes, I got the personal note from Ms. Pelosi too.  "ask" as a noun is
> >>  standard development-speak and has been for decades, at least among
> >>  university fund-raisers.
> >>
> >>
> >>  best,
> >>
> >>  Margaret
> >>
> >>
> >>  ----------------------------
> >>  MARGARET E WINTERS
> >>  Former Provost
> >>  Professor Emerita - French and Linguistics
> >>  Wayne State University
> >>  Detroit, MI  48202
> >>
> >>  mewinters at wayne.edu
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  ________________________________
> >>  From: American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU> on behalf of
> >>  James A. Landau <JJJRLandau at NETSCAPE.COM>
> >>  Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 4:18 PM
> >>  To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> >>  Subject: "my first ask"
> >>
> >>  (in reply to a post I unfortunately deleted and cannot locate in the
> >>  archives)
> >>
> >>  At 2:07 PM today Speaker Nancy Pelosi send out a fund-raising e-mail
> with
> >>  the subject line "re: my first ask"
> >>
> >>  - Jim Landau
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