[Ads-l] "There are no backsies" -- an adult adopt's a feature of children's speech

Andy Bach afbach at GMAIL.COM
Mon Jan 7 15:57:53 EST 2019


> On Jan 5, 2019, at 8:42 AM, Mark Mandel <Mark.A.Mandel at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> I've never seen or heard "buttinsky" used in this way, but only referring
> to a person who speaks out of (informal) turn or who pokes into other
> people's issues that are none of their business

Coincidently, yesterday's NYT mag's X-word puzzle had "buttinsky" as a clue
("yenta" was the answer), so, for WI kids anyway, it's a term that's moved
to the adult world, if perhaps not with the same definition.

On Sat, Jan 5, 2019 at 1:30 PM Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu> wrote:

> > On Jan 5, 2019, at 8:42 AM, Mark Mandel <Mark.A.Mandel at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> >
> > I've never seen or heard "buttinsky" used in this way, but only referring
> > to a person who speaks out of (informal) turn or who pokes into other
> > people's issues that are none of their business. I think I've also
> > encountered it in adult speech ("What a buttinsky!").
> >
> > I *do* remember "frontsy-backsy" from growing up in NYC, late '50s -
> early
> > '60s, but not later.
> >
> > Mark
>
> Ditto on all (though, as an elder, I can attest “frontsie(s)-backsie(s)”
> back to the early ‘50s).
>
> LH
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 4, 2019, 10:55 AM Andy Bach <afbach at gmail.com wrote:
> >
> >>> Is “fronties-backsies” just a NYC thing?
> >>
> >> We had "no butt-in-skys" when I was a kid.  "No backsies" was more often
> >> "no take-backs".
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 7:21 PM Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Is “fronties-backsies” just a NYC thing?  No relation to “no backsies”
> >>> (which my spellcheck insists should be “no backsides”).  The idea is
> that
> >>> when you’re waiting on line (this is New York, so it’s not *in* line),
> >> you
> >>> can’t let a friend in the line behind you without violating ethical
> >> rules.
> >>> But you can let them in in front of you, and then they can trade places
> >>> with you.  Of course, this can be objected to by some, with the cry “no
> >>> frontsies-backsies”.  Oops, just realized this rang a bell, and sure
> >> enough…
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> http://listserv.linguistlist.org/pipermail/ads-l/2006-October/063223.html
> >>>
> >>> But I’m not sure this made it to adult speech, or the other example I
> >>> cited in that thread, “black black no back”.
> >>>
> >>> LH
> >>
> >
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