[Ads-l] pronunciation of the capital of Ukraine

[Wilson Gray]

> KEY-ev, similar to the car company Kia, but with a v at the end.with a v
at the end

If we're going for an approximation of the native pronunciation, the vowel
of the first syllable doesn't exist in English, being very similar to
Russian ы, a kind of unrounded _u_, and _w_ becomes a _v_ only when
followed by a vowel in the course of declension or of rapid speech.
Name-drop: I studied Ukrainian under the tutelage of the late, great Prof.
G. Y. Shevelov.

On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 1:48 PM Dan Goncharoff <thegonch at gmail.com> wrote:

> I am not sure how to explain it, but I would say that what most people get
> wrong is the second syllable is not expressed as a full syllable, but as a
> second vowel sound following the first: KEY-ev, similar to the car company
> Kia, but with a v at the end.
>
> On Wed, Nov 20, 2019, 6:50 AM Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > What do residents of that city say?
> >
> > Approximately: KIH.yew.
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 5:49 PM David K. Barnhart <
> dbarnhart at highlands.com
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Recently I've heard news media people saying
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 'ki:v
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Rather than what I recall hearing heretofore as
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 'ki: ev
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > What do residents of that city say?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards to all,
> > >
> > > David
> > >
> > >
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-- 
-Wilson
-----
All say, "How hard it is that we have to die!"---a strange complaint to
come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
-Mark Twain

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