[Ads-l] question order in embedded question

Galen Buttitta satorarepotenetoperarotas3 at GMAIL.COM
Sun Sep 15 21:27:17 UTC 2019


Which Beowulf? Shaeffer?

– Galen Buttitta, Protagonist

> On Sep 15, 2019, at 16:57, Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> You and I may be the only speakers of AmE who care about this, anymore(😜),
> Benjamin.
> Back in the '50's, Labov noted this structure as a feature of BE, the
> standard structure being not,
> a.“Democrats are trying to figure out _who is_ the candidate that can play
> on Trump’s terrain, which is different from any terrain we’ve ever seen in
> modern politics,”
> but
> b.“Democrats are trying to figure out _who_ the candidate _is_ that can
> play on Trump’s terrain, which is different from any terrain we’ve ever
> seen in modern politics,”
> or even
> c.“Democrats are trying to figure out _who_ the candidate that can play on
> Trump’s terrain, which is different from any terrain we’ve ever seen in
> modern politics, _is_.”
> 
> What are you going to do? As Beowulf is said to have observed, "There's no
> stopping language change."
> 
> On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 10:25 PM Barretts Mail <mail.barretts at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> I think this topic has been covered here before. The Washington Post has a
>> nice example today:
>> 
>> ‘More united’ vs. ‘A house divided’: GOP goes all in on Trump while
>> Democrats clash over ideology and tactics
>> by By Toluse Olorunnipa and Rachael Bade
>> 
>> ****
>> For both parties, Trump is the main driver of the disruption, said Amy
>> Walter, national editor of the Cook Political Report.
>> 
>> “Democrats are trying to figure out who is the candidate that can play on
>> Trump’s terrain, which is different from any terrain we’ve ever seen in
>> modern politics,” she said.
>> ####
>> ####
>> 
>> I don’t see intonation making this sound right.
>> 
>> Benjamin Barrett (he/his/him)
>> Formerly of Seattle, WA
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>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> -Wilson
> -----
> All say, "How hard it is that we have to die!"---a strange complaint to
> come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
> -Mark Twain
> 
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